I think you misunderstood me. I am saying do not just go vote and then chill. Voting does not stop you from organizing, volunteering and getting involved in your local community and leftist orgs. I'm saying voting is not the be all end all. It's not the secret weapon. But it is a small, basically functionless tool for harm reduction.
SmilingSolaris
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Biden is putting palastinians in the fucking ground and that is a complaint, but voting or not voting in this election doesn't change that. That's not on the table. US is going to commit genocide no matter the winner and it fucking sucks. But what do you want me to do? You want me as a cis straight white man to tell my queer friends that I'm willing to sacrifice their life and safety to make a point? For what? To what end? What's your preferred outcome here?
At the end of the day, I'm not an accelerationist. I have a preferred outcome here, and no amount of wishing for a 3rd choice will change anything. Not choosing ain't gonna stop the choice from being made. And I'll take the, however small, less worse choice than the other.
Voting as well has no effect on your effect you can do in your community. It doesn't effect the orgs your in or whatever activism your up to. The best case scenario is you own the libs and while they scratch their head wondering for the billionth time why we won't vote for them and change nothing, more people suffer than would have otherwise.
I am not willing to sacrifice people, especially knowing the groups targeted will not be me.
Those are valid complaints, and all day fuck Joe biden, but at the end of the day I am not an accelerationist. I see no argument from a leftist perspective for not voting for our shitty option unless you think things getting worse will make them better faster. What is the outcome you have in mind? Don't vote to stick it to the libs, trump gets elected and then we all suffer that much more? For what?
That's not really an answer to the question. Are you implying that the US military threatened Japan into crashing its own economy? I don't think that's how that would work.
Wait, how was the 90s crash deliberate? I know nothing about it but the basics but this sounds wild.
Thank you for the thought out reply. Very good at explaining the point. Especially compared to reddit. I'm new and still sussing out the culture here. I was worried i could possibly catch a ban for asking as well lol.
That was an incredibly thought out and eye opening viewpoint. Compared to what I'm used to on Reddit anyways. Thank you.
Isn't 7 to 1 pretty standard dug in defense numbers?
Hey, genuine question here. Why include Russia in this? They are, to my understanding, a capitalist oligarch hellscape. Where queer folk are criminalized and hunted from public life. A different imperial power currently engaged in killing folk. Why is Russia doing good a good thing at all? Just in the fact its showing a country can exist outside the NATO sphere at all? Is it in any way support of Russian policies?
Once again, none of the above is intended to be read as aggressive or trick questions. They are just what's on my mind.
But it's not politically expedient though. And I don't see that really changing. Your asking me to weigh the hypothetical future where Biden and the Dems suddenly become super anti queer with the very real possibility of a trump dictatorship criminalizing and prosecuting my partner. Like I fully understand the Dems are old boomer som removed who only are pro queer rights because it gets them votes in the moment. But the alternative I fear is an actual genocide.
Especially as a person who isn't queer myself, I do not feel I have the right to sit by and pretend these fears are unfounded enough not to try and prevent a possible worst case scenario.
Zionism is fascism, Biden is a fascist, but Biden ain't the one talking about declaring himself a dictator. Sure it's 99 vs 100% Hitler, but there is no other option. And my morals say that when you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you don't stand on pride and choose none just for the choice to be made for you.