"Far future"? This was supposed to be for Discovery, which is initially set around 130 years from now. How much visible evolution do you imagine would take place in such a short timespan?
Cultbox has the best header image to go with the headline:
(a still from "The robot revolution", 2025)
They also theorise that what Britton was "sent" and watched was a pretty terrible "gen AI" fan project that was published to Youtube earlier this month, and then taken down fairly quickly after.
I thought it would be an advantage for the show to have a Director General who's a Doctor Who fan... but I guess I willingly overlooked that he's also a tech bro 🙄
All of that utopian nonsense about "enabling diverse voices" and "allowing more creative risk" is so clearly the exact opposite of what's happening with "AI". Instead, 200,000 American creatives have lost their jobs in the four year period since the first ”generative AI" models were released.
Actual creativity, craft, and imagination is being eliminated from the equation of media production as that trend continues to develop worldwide. Of course, that would sound A-okay to a former Google exec, but it paints a very bloody dire picture for future productions.
I sat down and rewatched "Affliction"/" Divergence" last night after this whole discussion. It is very much a not good storyline, and one that hadn't needed two episodes if not for some poorly motivated character shifts with Trip and Malcolm.
Yeah, the racially charged complaint against the DSC design doesn't entirely add up given the darkface makeup used in all previous versions of (white people playing) Klingons, including the TNG through ENT depictions.
I did like the DSC Klingons as aired, and if people had the patience required for things to play out, they could have waited for future writers to make up an elegant answer like the augment virus in ENT 🙂
Honestly? Also Gillian Anderson 🤣
Yeah, that was my thought as well. The jawline spikes are a bit much.
Whatever do you mean, this was only released 10 years after the fact (and 2 yrs after the show had run its course well beyond his involvement) 😄
Bryan Fuller posted this on Instagram as a birthday greeting to Laurence Fishburne, back on July 30.
So apparently Fuller had intended to carry over the Hannibal cast into Discovery in various parts — and this was how he'd imagined Fishburne in Klingon prosthetics. It also suggests that the much maligned Disco Klingon designs were decided upon after Fuller left as (preliminary) show runner.
ETA: Here is a rundown of the casting plans he had in mind, originally revealed on the D-con chamber podcast. I would have watched Gillian Anderson as a starship captain.
You talk a lot about trust, and I think that's an important factor. Sure, you can argue that the shows' utopianism changed entirely because the powers-that-be warped the messaging. That's probably true too, certainly now with the Ellisons at the top. But that's pretty recent.
I think there's also an aspect of how much viewers would be able to suspend their disbelief if they were served '60s or even '90s era scripts today. Especially TNG was very diplomacy focused and based in mutual respect. My guess is there has been an erosion of trust in Western society in the meantime. Again, ultimately because Capitalism, I'm sure — but in a broader sense than I interpret from your comment?
I dunno, I don't have a neatly wrapped theory about this. Sorry if I go completely off on a tangent based on your comment.
I think the first season of Discovery tried to earnestly grapple with real world politics through the whole Klingon war/Mirror Universe arcs. All of Picard seemed to be about conspiracies and shadow governments, which certainly also speaks to its time of production... while dulling the shine on the utopian vision for the future.
And it's not just badmirals and Section 31 that have been at issue. We've seen plenty of disgruntled pirates (read: regular-Joe capitalists) turned terrorists in the eyes of the Federation. Our main casts have visited enough dystopian "slum" planets in the past ten years, where criminals organise and prosper, that the idealism of Star Trek is depicted as precarious.
Way out in the 32nd century, as Osyraa bites into a Federation-produced apple, admiral Vance comments that "it's made from our shit, you know". Way to sell post-scarcity, buddy. Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made. I think the past decade of Trek has done a good job of postulating soft values, standing up for minorities and diversity. It's been pretty shit (to stay in the vocabulary) at representing the very foundation of that sort of tolerance, though.
Trek should be a means to imagining the end of Capitalism, even if only as a background note for all kinds of weekly weird encounters and philosophical twists. But that is not just hard to depict in the 21st century — it's actively being played as downright unsexy in the shows.
Can I just say,
a void ship [is] a bit out of nowhere
is the best phrased meta-criticism I've seen in a good while 👏👏👏
That's a pretty nice haul judging from the photo you posted. Especially at the grand price of paying nothing 🙂
It only took forever (well, from May until now) for this vinyl to become available in my local b&m record store... But holy hell, is it worth the wait! 🤘🤩
https://neurosis.bandcamp.com/album/an-undying-love-for-a-burning-world
Big caveat up front, I have no illusion that this was ever planned out, or that it's ever going to be made. I just connected some dots from Eccleston's season to our current mess. I do think that if the BBC had Pete McTighe make a 15 minute special along these lines and put it on Youtube, the fans could rest easier and the next production team might start on a blank slate.
To summarise, the last couple of seasons had a convoluted arc concerning a companion's parent issues. She was saved as a baby through time travel intervention, but not without a lot of temporal disturbance in the process. In fact, babies have been a throughline in both Ncuti Gatwa's seasons, a pattern that culminates in the Doctor rupturing the Time Vortex in order to save one child's existence. For just a probable moment there, that child is his own. Succeeding in his mission, the Doctor is then replaced by somebody looking suspiciously like Rose Tyler.
- Church.
- Baby.
- Rose.
- Temporal paradox.
- On what could be considered the Doctor's Father's Day.
Bring on the Time Reapers to sterilise the wound in time! That's why the Doctor regenerated into this face, à la 12 looking like Caecilius from "The fires of Pompeii". She needs to channel Rose as a catalyst to heal the reset 15 did to save Poppy. Besides, where Pete sacrificed himself to sort the timestream out, this time around the Reapers are attacking the Doctor and their police box. And the Doctor's current face has a very special relation to the TARDIS' living heart.
To be fair, the rest of the story doesn't really matter, this is only meant to resolve the Billie Piper twist of "The reality war". It doesn't fix fan quibbles over the Timeless Child or the Doctor being half human on their mother's side for a hot minute in 1996. Pretty much everything other than that latest regeneration cliffhanger can be ignored or picked up upon by future writers. So end this minisode on a regeneration without showing what happens next, or just leave it open ended.
Now, would I love for Susan to pop up for no other reason than to ease her "grandfather" into the credits crawl, and a future season where neither actress are seen again? Maybe an exchange to echo the Seventh's exit monologue to Ace at the end of "Survival"? Absolutely, but this could well be a one hander between Piper, some 2005 archive footage, and the janky old low-poly CGI monsters from back then.
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