That's XMMP different thing =P

No, this changes nothing for me.

Uh. The relationship between CentOS Stream and RHEL is a bit murkier to me. I'd be lying to you if I said I fully understood how that code flow works.

For openSUSE the flow is "openSUSE Tumbleweed" -> "SUSE Linux Enterprise" -> "openSUSE Leap"

Everytime SUSE creates a new version/service pack of SLE (SLE 15 SP4, to use an example) the sources for that version are provided to openSUSE, and a new version of Leap is released (openSUSE Leap 15.4)

I don't actually work on Leap much, nor am I a SUSE Employee, so there are probably some minutae in that process that I'm missing, but that's the basic workflow.

That's a very emotional take indeed, you obviously feel strongly.

What, exactly, is RedHat stealing here? Are they deleting code from upstream git repos?

I mean, if you have a moral issue with the way RedHat chooses to structure their customer agreements, you're more than welcome to not use their products. I generally feel like this is a mistake on RedHats part myself, but it doesn't affect my life in any meaningful way.

RedHat is going to continue to contribute back upstream, they're going to continue to support Fedora, and provide CentOS Stream for to community to use.

Rocky, Alma, Oracle and other projects that were rebuilding RHEL sources will have to sort out how they want to proceed.

There are a hell of a lot more evil things happening in the world to get pissed off about.

I mean, if you know the software you need to have, to make it work on RHEL, It might take a bit of work on your part, but I can't imagine getting it installed on CentOS Stream will be that onerous a task.

Absolutely nothing. Fedora is upstream of RHEL.

That's entirely possible. I never actually used, contributed, or developed for CentOS, so I might have some small details wrong.

It was meant to be dismissive. Happy to clear that up for you.

Hm.

Famke Janssen, if she's reprising her character from Goldeneye
Kate Beckinsdale, in her role as Selene from Underworld
Kathleen Turner, as Jessica Rabbit.

Yes, I'm a simple Man, with simple tastes =P

As I understand it, no. I could be all wet, but RedHat isn't under any obligation, I don't think, to provide their sources to anybody that wants them, and is perfectly within their rights to only provide them to "customers" under the GPL. They just aren't allowed to withhold them from those same "customers".

But I'm not any sort of expert on opensource licensing.

The only reason I haven't gotten an instance spun up yet, is because I'm old, and set in my ways, and don't really understand how to configure and get kbin running with Docker. As soon as somebody that's better at this than I am gets some sort of "Docker for dummies wanting to setup kbin" up, I'll spin it up, I've already got a nice beefy VPS sitting there with Mastodon/Matrix/Nextcloud running on it, and plenty of resources left.