LarkinDePark

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

You're just splitting hairs. They used the Minsk peace negotiations to buy time to prepare for war, "to become stronger"... and not for actual peace. This is a fact that you have to accept.

Later Hollande corroborated the admission.

"Yes, Angela Merkel is right on this point. Since 2014, Ukraine has strengthened its military posture. Indeed, the Ukrainian army was completely different from that of 2014. It was better trained and equipped. It is the merit of the Minsk agreements to have given the Ukrainian army this opportunity."

The "merit" of peace agreements to prepare for war.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (17 children)

It's relevant because understanding the root cause of the war is critical to defending your mind from the propaganda you're being constantly subjected to.

Up to a week before the invasion Ukraine was threatening to install nukes and minimise Russia's response time. This is a security threat that no state can tolerate. You know full well that the USA wouldn't tolerate anything remotely similar.

This war was started by the USA overthrowing Ukraine's democracy in 2014 and installing a puppet Banderite Nazi government designed to be a proxy for NATO to threaten Russia. The US believed they could take over Russia again and loot and pillage it like they did in the 90s. They lost control of it with the Iraq war, when Putin refused to help them murder a million plus Iraqis. He was supposed to be their tame, controlled dictator of the place that they were selling off to their oligarchs for pennies.

This was all well understood and known before the massive propaganda avalanche after the 2022 invasion (that Russia tried to avoid for the 8 years prior). Absurd repetition of the "Unprovoked" invasion, reinventing history to spin a yarn about Russia just deciding to invade to steal land etc.

Most people think they're immune to propaganda, or that it's just not happening to them, it happens to people in foreign countries.

Here's the news before the invasion:

Forbes - Ukraine Deradicalized Its Extremist Troops. Now They Might Be Preparing A Counteroffensive

The Hill - Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis

Years of the Western (BBC) Media Admitting to Extremism Among Azov Military Units:

BBC - Outside Source, (March 23, 2022)

BBC - Torch-lit march in Kiev by Ukraine's far-right Svoboda Party (2014)

BBC - Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine: NEWSNIGHT (2014)

BBC - Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden (2014)

BBC - Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict (2014)

BBC - Ukraine's most-feared volunteers (2015)

BBC - The far-right group threatening to overthrow Ukraine's government - Newsnight (2015)

BBC - Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia - BBC Newsnight (2018)

BBC - Ukraine coat of arms in UK anti-terror list furore (2020)

BBC - Behind Belarusian 'far-right mercenary' claims (2021)

Al Jazeera - Ukrainian fighters grease bullets against Chechens with pig fat (2022)

The Hill - The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda (2017)


These are all western sources. This was real reporting. I think the question you have to answer is were they lying then? Or are they lying now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes please!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (19 children)

To your knowledge, what was the reason Russia invaded Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

But Putin was they only party to the previous Minsk agreements who kept his word. Merkel and then Hollande admitted that they never had any intention of honoring the agreements.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Why do you think there would be a "next attack" and where?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Al you need to do is look at the testimonies of other countries. Let's not pretend that all we can do is shrug and say we've no reason to make a reasoned assumption either way.

There's plenty of goodwill built up at this point for China.

https://x.com/luo_yuehan/status/1684646642316636162

https://x.com/real1maria/status/1625390102963802112

https://socialistchina.org/2022/02/03/justin-podur-why-comparing-chinese-africa-investment-to-western-colonialism-is-no-joke/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yes Russia and China and any other states that disobey.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Ukraine was attacking its own citizens for years before Russia invaded, after it was threatening to join NATO and install nukes etc.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is so affirming and cheering to read. Optimism is back!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
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