Clearly the tankie brain cannot comprehend criticism from the left...

Not ableism

The millions and millions of peasants and workers who formed the absolutely committed base of the communist party yes. Here's a question for you: HOW did the Bolsheviks gain power? When the Tsarist regime was crushing and oppressing the workers, and after the February revolution when the bourgeoise transitional state was gearing up for another round of WW1, HOW did the Bolsheviks come out on top? Was there a magic crown they grabbed to take control of the revolution? Did they use communist mind control? So "the peasants ... democratically rejected [the] bolshevik clergy [sic] over and over again through the soviets back in 1919" ^[Citation needed] but the bolsheviks just overruled them... how?

This is the problem with a liberal-idealist understanding of the world which is not based in material reality, you don't think about things like that. The bolsheviks won BECAUSE they had the full, furious support of dozens of millions of workers and peasants, without which they could not possibly have defeated the White army or constructed a socialist state. The Soviet people worked tirelessly to build a society of technological wonders as well as the military power needed to defend it against a world of capitalist enemies. Enemies like the Polish fascists who invaded the USSR in 1921, annexing a massive region that was (and is today) part of Belarus and Ukraine. Do you think retaking these areas (and saving their populations from the advancing Nazis) was wrong of the USSR? Do you think these territories should be part of Poland today? Should Belarus and western Ukraine be re-annexed to the Polish state, which held them for less than twenty years?

Ukrainians

Six million Ukrainians fought in the Red Army in WW2, making up 23% of the Soviet Union's entire armed forces. The insignificant handful of traitorous fascist worms who sabotaged their own nation, collaborated with the Nazis and gleefully massacred Jews (and Poles!!) do not represent the Ukrainian people. This is what the 'Ukrainian Nationalists' have to say about their time 'resisiting the communists':

Which is the kind of thing the Red Army put a stop to.

Finns

Here I agree with Rosa Luxemburg: Granting Finland independence and not supporting the morally correct side in its civil war was objectively a mistake. The Red Army should have marched on Helsinki in 1918 but Lenin and the bolsheviks were too committed to the policy of the right of nations to self-determination, so they let it be taken over by nationalists who would go on to aid the Nazis in the siege of Leningrad that killed 1.5 million people. Don't look up the insignia used by the Finnish air force until 2020.

And the US used it's military power to end Imperial Japan - I guess that makes the US "anit-colonial" now, too?

Literally yes, that was an anti-colonial act, except that they immediately replaced Japanese imperialism in the eastern Pacific with US imperialism. Also what really drove the Japanese to surrender was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria. The Japanese had hoped the USSR would act as a neutral arbiter for a conditional truce between them and the US, but when it was clear the USSR was going to roll up the fascists wherever they found them, the Japanese unconditionally surrendered to the US specifically to avoid the possibility of a communist takeover. The US then immediately put Japanese military leaders (i.e. war criminals) to work against the communists in the Phillipines, Korea, Vietnam and everywhere else in South-East Asia. Actions you presumably support, as those war criminals were deployed first and foremost against the worst of all liberal boogeymen, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Did you know the US invasion killed around 20% of the population of the Korean peninsula?

And? Are you perhaps suffering from some kind of insecurity, tankie?

Let me know when an anarchist gets to space.

Books:

• This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong
• Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend by Domenico Losurdo
• Fraud, Famine and Fascism: The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard by Douglas Tottle
• and if you really have the stomach for it, Blood Lies by Grover Furr - I warn you though, it's nearly 600 pages with heavy sourcing and referencing so your attention span might be challenged

Thanks, and to add even further, this had global effects too

High living standards and strong workers' rights and compensation in the USSR forced capitalist nations around the world to make concessions to their workers. Once the USSR had been destroyed, the concessions could be rolled back and the profits guzzled by the capitalists.

Oh, so you care about bourgeoise multiparty elections for control of a state? Which is it, are all states evil or are some actually okay, now that you think about it? Perhaps the ones you live in and have assimilated all the cultural norms of? What a curious coincidence.

Ah yeah, I forgot the anarchist counter to communist arguments, not being able to read.

Here's some pretty pictures for you to look at - Chinese life expectancy

and Chinese solar panel production

If the human species still exists in a thousand years, it will be thanks to the communists of China

didnt they fight the boers at one point

That's true and good, but even then, in the process they also invented the concept of the concentration camp. I mean, rounding up civilians into cramped, unsanitary conditions with little food so that they all die of disease is a pretty obvious idea, but they systematized and came up with the euphemism for it.

And US republicans say they believe in freedom above all.

Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China's have done.

I figured it would be this story, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some other phantasm you'd conjured up. Pornography is illegal in China (as it should be). These women were writing erotic novels that crossed the legal boundary into pornography, however that's judged, and selling them. There is a thriving market for gay erotica that skirts the pornography law, and a thriving scene for 'pornographic' novels that aren't being sold for money, the problem is when you try to secretly sell the latter. As a result, 22 people have been arrested for essentially tax fraud, out of a population of 1,400,000,000.

And why would China be anti-LGBT? Like most of the third world, China has some cultural conservatives with anti-LGBT views, but also like in most of the third world, these were installed by colonizers forcing westernization and Christian morality upon them. China has a long history of LGBT acceptance and even celebration in its pre-modern history, such as the 'passion of the cut sleeve' (go look it up). The crucial difference is that unlike in the western world, they don't have a massive, powerful, fundamentalist religious lobby that can dictate policy and force them back in the wrong direction. The Chinese youth are unsurprisingly more progressive than their elders, so as time goes on attitudes should soften more.

But this brings up another important point: without a state, what are you going to do with all the homophobes? Do you think you could have a peaceful anarchist revolution in the United States and everyone would just stop hating gay and transgender people by themselves? Do you think the reactionaries of the US won't need to be imprisoned until they can be educated into not hating the gays? Do you think you won't need a special body of armed men to forcibly suppress the urge to lynch which lives in the heart of a large fraction of USians? What is the anarchist mechanism for actually transforming the world as it is now, into the world we want it to be, without apparently inconveniencing anyone? You can't answer this of course, because anyone who thinks about it long enough and actually references history becomes a communist.

Me when I'm an anarchist who cares about state gold reserves.

Anyway, it was payment for the

• 242 aircraft,
• 703 pieces of artillery,
• 731 tanks,
• 1,386 trucks,
• 300 armored cars
• 15,000 heavy machine guns,
• 500,000 rifles,
• 30,000 sub-machine guns,
• 4,000,000 artillery shells,
• 1,000,000,000 machine gun cartridges,
• over 69,000 tons of war material, and
• over 29,000 tons of ammunition

That the USSR provided. Should they have given it for free? Should they have not given support at all? Would it have been better for the Republicans to just accept they were going to lose anyway and die with their gold? Would you prefer that gold to have been captured by the Fascists?

Besides, the actual greatest gold heist of the century was during Indian independence, when their entire gold reserves were airlifted to the UK in exchange for... nothing. Which I'm sure you knew about, having devoted a proportional amount of your time to looking into the actual crimes of capitalist nations as you have the fictional crimes of socialist ones.

It's colonialism when you teach peasants how to read and give them telegraph poles and combine harvesters. You are a fucking stupid historically illiterate imperial core roleplayer piece of shit, the USSR was the first anticolonial nation in history, they fought on the morally correct side of nearly every anticolonial struggle in the world in the 20th century. As just even a single example, in 1961, the USSR used its veto powers in the UN to stop a forced ceasefire, allowing the Indians to invade and liberate the Portugese-held island of Goa, literally kicking out colonialists.

But it's interesting that you seem to agree with the representative of Portugal that the USSR has 'shamed the whole of mankind'.

The USSR created the first artifical satellite, put the first man in space, put the first woman in space, conducted the first spacewalk, landed the first spacecraft on the moon, landed the first spacecraft on another planet (Venus), built the first space station and landed the first spacecraft on Mars. The first black man in space was an Afro-Cuban man who went on in a Soviet rocket. Eight of the first ten nationalities in space were from the 'eastern block'. 'Astronaut Barbie' was released by Mattel two years after the first Soviet woman went to space, and twenty years BEFORE the first US woman would.

Anyway I'm tired of reading your overwrought self-righteous self-important reddit liberal style of argumentation, all form and no substance, so just feel free to go read a book (assuming that's something you're actually capable of) and argue with that instead.

Chinese people both feel that their country is more democratic, and that democracy is more important, than every other country in the world.

They said while “AES“ China is massively oppressing it's LGBT populace from expressing LGBT ideas.

What the fuck are you talking about?? When you make a claim you have to back it up with evidence. It is obviously much, much safer to be LGBT in China than in most other countries in the world, ESPECIALLY the US - and if you want the most progressive legislation on LGBT rights, womens rights and the rights of children then you have to go to the communist state of Cuba.

Ah, of course, I forgot that protesting against claims that are false is exactly the same as protesting against claims that are true, you're so balanced and wise. Saying that the Holocaust didn't happen and saying that Stalin didn't actually personally eat all of the corn in Ukraine with a giant spoon are exactly morally equivalent. If you would like to provide any evidence for a single one of your "irrefutable claims" I would love to see it.

Oh shit yeah, I forgot about all that bullshit the CIA made up.

Wait a second, THOUGHT CRIMES???? THOUGH CRIMES??????? Do you think 'Thought Crimes' were a real thing that existed outside of the anticommunist screed '1984'?

Anyways, on to your next point, oh, it's the most unreasonable fucking false equivalency I've ever seen in my life. The UK is not and has never been a democracy, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that has occasional political pageantry where it pretends the people have any power at all, just like every single nation that is not communist. Fighting the Nazis is the literal only time the British Empire did a single good thing, and their problem with German fascism was the German part, not the fascism part. And then they immediately started drawing up 'Operation Unthinkable', the plan to resume an invasion of the USSR using mainly Wehrmacht soldiers, a plan I assume you support wholeheartedly as it would have destroyed what was obviously the most evil nation in the world at the time, the one whose soldiers liberated Auschwitz.

Why would there need to be an alternative? It was already the best possible version of what could have happened, within the bounds of a crushing siege by the entire capitalist world on one hand, and basic human fallibility on the other. There is no other political leader in history with a higher proportion of correct decisions to mistakes than Stalin, and they were mistakes, as in consequences not intended from actions taken earnestly to protect the people of the USSR - unlike the actual unspeakable atrocities being committed constantly by every single imperialist nation at the time, as well as before and since.

Even just on its own terms, the USSR was unimaginably more humane than what came before:

what existed outside of it:

and what came after:

This is called the "Eastern Cross" by the way, a demographic phenomenon unique to former nations of the USSR, where the death rate and birth rate suddenly cross over each other in the 90s. It's way better that this happened, of course, than the USSR being run by """authoritarians""" who would protect their people from sabotage and murder using the necessary amount of violence (that is, still less than their enemies).

But I forgot, we're comparing an actual nation that had to actually exist in the dirt and blood of the real world, to the geometrically perfect platonic anarchist society that lives in your head, so I guess I have to concede. I'll go tell all the communists in the third world to pack it up and disband their organizations and scratch out all the hammers and sickles so you can go tell them how to avoid being assassinated by the CIA the right way.

You're so right, it would have been way better for everyone in the territory of the USSR to be illiterate and poor and starving, so they wouldn't have cared so much when the Nazis effortlessly murdered everyone from western Poland to eastern Siberia. Who even needs industrial output when you could have a """horizontally-organized""" bandit kingdom named after its unelected leader?