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Say no to mansplaining (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I feel like "mansplaining" has lost all meaning. It used to be about men going out of their way to correct someone that didn't need correcting, particularly if they were wrong themselves, and most often with women. Now people use it on men just...saying things to anyone.

I get that people are touchy on the subject, and I respect anyone's right to not want or need help. I think how Mr. Solomon handled it was correct - ask if they want your input and respect their answer. It'd just be nice if people didn't use cultural memes to dismiss others out of hand.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

We used to call these people patronizing but it got gendered for some reason

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah in my books, "Mansplaining" has never had proper meaning. It was just a way of blaming men for a particular behaviour, which is generally neutral to begin with.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nah, it came from a very real workspace behavior where men would explain things to women when the woman would be the expert.

It’s very well studied: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/it-s-man-s-and-woman-s-world/201603/the-psychology-mansplaining

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I feel like “mansplaining” has lost all meaning

Yeah, they misused the term.

Mr. Solomon handled it was correct - ask if they want your input and respect their answer.

You forgot step #3! Not whine about it online.

He offered, they declined, we didn't need to hear about it. The only reason we heard about it is because he felt slighted, or is trying to make some anti-feminist point. I'm sad that he felt bad, but not everyone is going to want the free stuff you're offering. That doesn't make them bad people, or feminism a bad movement.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

So if a female biologist who wrote a PHD thesis on the origins of RNA overheard some men talking about the origins of life and when the women wants to chime in because she is a subject matter expert, the men tell her they "don't need a black woman's explanation". And after being told this she is in the wrong for venting online? Please. Your just as sexist as the people you claim to be opposed to.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

You cannot in good faith compare people who have suffered because if their skin color to those who have not, when talking about situations where skin color comes up.

Are both situations racist by pure definition? Sure. Just like punching a man and punching a child are both punching. One is much more wrong.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Fuck all that noise...

One racially motivated act (say hitting someone because of their skin color) is not any more or less racist depending on the race of the victim. If you believe that, it is by definition a racist value you're holding.

There's a difference when it comes to contextual, social and historical factors. Like the word cracker is insensitive but doesn't carry the hateful connotations and discrimination that the N-word possesses.

But anyone trying to say it's more or less appropriate to hate on any single group is just demonstrating their own implicit and explicit racial biases.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s reductive to take that as saying “it’s more appropriate to hate on white people”. They worded it a bit poorly imo but the analogy they’re responding to is still crappy. There isn’t an issue of black women assuming white men don’t know the origins of RNA, but there is an issue of men assuming women don’t know anything about “nerdy” things like film. Obviously they assumed wrong with Ed Solomon, but the analogy is still in bad faith because it’s wouldn’t be for the same reason.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"No Mansplaining" sounds more like an excuse to avoid a conversation you feel insecure about

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