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cross-posted from: https://toast.ooo/post/232185

Hey all,

I’ve got an exciting thing to announce today, Canvas — Lemmy’s r/Place!

We need to get our own traditions over here in the Threadiverse, why not start off with our own r/Place

This weekend, we will open up a canvas to all Lemmy users, each user will be able to place 1 pixel every minute. This event will last 72 hours, starting midnight EST on the 4th and ending at 11:59pm EST on the 6th

Some instances that are joining in:

Join the Lemmy Community [[email protected]](/c/[email protected])

Join the Matrix Space #lemmy-canvas:matrix.org

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We need to get our own traditions over here in the Threadiverse, why not start off with another platform's tradition

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it count as a new tradition if we don't poop all weekend?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good plan. You're on. You go first.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no you're not getting me to poop first that easy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The real question is who poop last.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you ever read a single history book? Humans are not very creative. All traditions are copying the tribe next door's tradition with a little twist. That's just how culture works.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The age old tradition of cultural appropriation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This, plus something is better than nothing! Also nobody's saying we can't do anything else later. Nothing wrong with taking something tried and tested to get the ball rolling

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

couldn't be worse than having cloudflare verification on a can of beans

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Don't knock our fucking traditions, Carl

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Were you not amused by Poop and Beans??

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does it mean for an instance to “join in”? Can users not participate unless their instance has joined?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems like onboarding will be handled by a bot, so I imagine it shouldn't really matter what instance you're using. As for instances that are "Joining in", I think that just refers to Admins for those instances promoting the event.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Place is fun. Glad to see that it’s going to happen here too.

It seems there is a fair number of people wanting to “not copy Reddit.” But it seems they forget that the whole reason they are on Lemmy/Kbin is to find an alternative to Reddit, that basically works like Reddit. The sentiment of “don’t do what Reddit does” should apply only to the shifty stuff Reddit does, like cutting off API access to good developers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

as long as the "Fuck Spez" tags are kept to a minimum

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If we want to start our own traditions, why the hell are we copying reddit yet again?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

So we can write fuck spez, but this time on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you thought Reddit had a lot of fuck spez spam on place, wait till you see lemmys version.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd really prefer if we do our own thing and let Reddit slowly fade into obscurity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah me too but people are addicted to their corporate masters.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, it’s mostly going to be a lot of 503 Server not found or an army of bots will take over to draw some yiff art.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I hope not. He won't even see it

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joining would be neat but… how?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been on Reddit for seven years and I still don't know what this r/place even is and why people are talking about it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

it's a live, collaborative art project. On reddit, you'd have hundreds/thousands of people all contributing at once.

you have a blank page, you click on page to place coloured pixel. Wait 5 mins to place another.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

12 year redditor here. You're not missing anything trust me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was an event where one user can change the color of a single pixel at a time, choosing from a predefined color palette. There was a cooldown on how often you were allowed to color a pixel, 5 minutes or something, I don't remember.

It was a fun way for communities to band together and draw pixel art over the course of a week or so. It was fun the first time because it was spontaneous and there weren't very many bots, if any. After that, it was just a competition of who paid for the most bot accounts so they could camp a space to keep a clear picture. Completely lost its draw IMO (no pun intended).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

That’s exciting! Would be interesting to see what kind of people are really here lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Never understood what was appealing about place and will not be attempting to understand. But if it makes people happy…whatever

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never understood Minecraft until I saw what ppl built in there. Place is (was?) a wonderful display of organized, chaotic and artistic choices and behaviors. Participation is awfully slow but that seems to add to the amazing effects the occur. I always found the anarchistic behaviors interesting, like the void. I helped with rainbow road a bit just to be a part of it, nothing serious though just a couple pixels here and there.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not partial to it, but more power to y'all who like it. I'll watch the time-lapse nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

For Federated users to visit from your instance click this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does this work? At what URL will this be hosted at?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Anyone remember canv.as? That thing the 4chan guy tried to make way back?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Sounds nifty as long as it works as intended.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with something sort of kind of like Place but not a complete clone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hold on I got it, Place but...

three deee

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Brb learning three.js

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

With sound, everybody can choose an instrument and place a note on an orchestral score and OH THE CACOPHONY! MAKE IT STOP!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Credit where it's due, Reddit was pretty good at coming up with novel ideas for social experiments for a few years (which also drove engagement, not coincidentally).

If I were to come up with Place-but-not, for the fediverse and Lemmy specifically, I would do it like this:

The canvas would start very small and divided into plots, with each plot "owned" by a user. The user who owns a plot can determine the pallete to be used in their plot, can whitelist / blacklist other users on their plot, and has a reduced cooldown on placing pixels inside their plot. They are the admin of their plot, basically, which is to mimic an instance.

When every pixel of the canvas has been covered at least once or a certain amount of time has elapsed, it would expand with new auto-generated plots randomly assigned to users from among those who have placed a pixel. Plots could be regular squares or other irregular shapes. The most inactive plots could be blanked and reassigned to a new owner after a time.

In this way, users would have to work together to make bigger art on the canvas or seek out a spot willing to cooperate with their art. You'd see alliances of plots, users making art around an uncooperative plot, hostile plots get ganged up on, hands-off plot owners allowing anything on their plot, and all sorts of shit like that that makes social experiments like this interesting. You'd likely still need top-tier admin intervention to remove hate symbols and the like.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Gonna be fun

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