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[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What comes out of a coal power plant is unburnt coal, which will contain some amount of carbon 14 which is slightly radioactive.

What comes out of a nuclear power station is water vapor. Which is not even slightly radioactive.

Therefore coal power stations output more nuclear material than nuclear power stations, which output none. We live in a world of idiots.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

I think we should include nuclear waste in the output calculation of nuclear power plants. Just the high level waste from nuclear power plants is hundreds of thousands times more radioactive and toxic than coal plant output.

But your are right, we should move away from both of these: coal and nuclear power. And this is actually exactly what the German people want and what the government has decided. Ending coal burning is scheduled for 2038 and complete switch to renewable energy production is scheduled for 2045. This is called the Energiewende (Energy Transition) and here is the government's page on this topic: https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/schwerpunkte/klimaschutz/faq-energiewende-2067498

Google translate: https://www-bundesregierung-de.translate.goog/breg-de/schwerpunkte/klimaschutz/faq-energiewende-2067498?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Germans agree with this policy and we even want it faster: https://www.fr.de/wirtschaft/78-prozent-der-deutschen-wollen-eine-schnellere-energiewende-zr-92219363.html

Google translate: https://www-fr-de.translate.goog/wirtschaft/78-prozent-der-deutschen-wollen-eine-schnellere-energiewende-zr-92219363.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Fission is still much less impactful in terms of environmental damage and hazard in the transitionary period.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Not just Germans btw. Danes are the same. Being anti-nuclear is considered a standard leftist view here and the fight against nuclear power was considere one of the 1980's environmental movement's greatest wins. Being pro-nuclear is coded as a right-wing message around here that you mostly have to trigger the left.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (103 children)

Being anti-nuclear is one of the most bizarre positions the western left has internalized.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile fly ash from coal is MORE radioactive than being near a nuclear plant.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fate of this planet is going to based entirely on the artificial sun being completed, isn't it?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (10 children)

All the comments about the nuclear reactor disasters remind me of a Vsauce video called Risk. . Michael talks about a hypothetical world where "one cigarette pack out of every eighteen thousand seven hundred and fifty contains a single cigarette laced with dynamite that, when lit, violently explodes, blowing the user's head off. People would be loudly and messily losing their heads every day all over the world but in that imaginary universe the same number of people would die every day because of smoking that already do". Nuclear disasters are messy, but affect less people than coal plants operating normally.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Very glad that representatives from Exxon-Mobil could make it here to lemmy to let us know how bad nuclear power is.

I LOVE DEAD OCEANS I LOVE DEAD OCEANS

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

This is what happens when planning beyond the next financial reporting period is verboten and there are political points to be scored in the theatre of liberal "democracy".

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