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Joe Rogan and Bret Weinstein Promote AIDS Denialism to an Audience of Millions (www.vice.com)
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[–] 261 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Joe Rogan is the living embodiment of being so open minded that your brains fall out.

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  • [–] 91 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I mean that’s beautifully put…..

    But unfortunately it’s simpler than that. It’s the story of a reasonable man that achieved beyond his dreams and then flipped sides because of money and status.

    “Suddenly I have an opinion on the capital gains tax.” Type of stuff.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I, too, have an opinion on the capital gains tax. It should be taxed at the same rate as income. We can let them keep the exception on the first half million in profit because I'm feeling nice today.

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    • [–] 148 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I'm fifty. Joe Rogan is fifty six. Even though I was young in the eighties, by 1992 I had already lost six people I knew to AIDS. Joe, being six years older than I, would have witnessed peak AIDS apocalypse as an older teen. He was even from New Jersey, not some suburb in the midwest. He would have seen some shit. All he has to do is remember, but he chooses willful ignorance.

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  • [–] 65 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We all just lived through covid. It's not that hard to imagine someone denying the existence of a global plague that effects people they know.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    We are all living through global climate change, and the collapse of late stage capitalism, etc. These and their I'll are selling copium to the masses of folks who can't face reality and choose to live in fantasy.

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    [–] 117 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Joe Rogan: What dumb people think smart people are like.

    Aka, The Big Bang theory for bros.

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    [–] 77 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Rogan is such a shit. I can't wait for his endorsement of Trump. You know that asshole's endorsement is coming. And he'll do it while talking about how old Biden is and ignoring the fact that Trump is only four years younger. Because he's a fucking idiot.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago

    he was around during trump, he endorses the same things as trump, the same candidates as trump, with a few exceptions in both, and says "nah bro, I'm just thinking for myself and outside the mainstream"

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I wish this idiot would have a stroke and die in his sleep.

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    • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Someone should tell those babies born with AIDS to stop taking poppers.

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    • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    They don’t care if what they are spouting is true or not. They just want a platform to make money off the gullible. It’s all about having a platform and making $$$.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If he can't eat it, fuck it or shoot it, he can't understand it

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm torn between "free speech!" and "this should be illegal".

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    • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Oh Bret. Having taken some of his classes in 2012, and having known his family and kids... I instantly recognize him in grift mode. He will always take refuge in plausible deniability and hyperfocus on a concrete detail (like 80s drug culture being unhealthy for people's immune systems) and handwave the significance of other factors.

    He then leaves the conclusions to people like Rogan and won't necessarily refute ridiculous takes.

    It was a technique for guiding academic seminars he used. It helped cut through people getting stuck in the weeds, but it also often just led to him allowing the seminar to derail and go into the weeds.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    How is this not illegal in the US ? Someone needs to sue this idiot

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    AiDS Denialism is a thing?

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Free speech vs causing catastrophic harms. From the perspective of deaths caused, why is this different to firing shots into a crowd?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    The American conception of freedom of speech is all about personal rights, with no thought to personal responsibility. The reason freedom of speech is important is precisely because it's consequential. The idea of using free speech (a precious right) responsibly, if it ever existed, is gone now .

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    The reason and justification for free speech is also about preventing tyranny and holding people accountable and allowing unusual dissenting voices to be heard.

    But a few now own all the means of communication, control and shape the speech and have practically become the government. There is no freedom of speech if so much of it is controlled and so much noise is blasted. Speech has become a commodity and if it's free it's worthless.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I can decide to turn off nonsense podcasts. I can't decide not to get shot if someone is shooting at me.

    A better metaphor might be screaming "that guy's got a gun" in a crowded theatre. I might be able to ignore it, but lots of people are going to believe it and act accordingly, and their reaction is probably not going to be good for anyone.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Jamie, pull that up

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