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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

people will start hypothesizing every type of plastic substitute imaginable at the cost of moving the entire Sahara desert to the Pacific Ocean and talking about "Western packaging" vs "Chinese packaging". my loves, we live in a system that leads us to consume continuously and more and more, what do you think about stopping buying and producing what is not needed?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're not necessarily wrong, but also 90% of food is packaged in plastic. Cheap food especially, which is all that a lot of people can afford.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

God forbid! Don't you dare say that! We need everything, but especially what we haven't bought yet and ridiculously overpriced branded shit! /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Everytime I buy something from a local shop or a western brand, it comes packaged with minimal plastic, and a lot of well thought out materials. Even if they use plastic, its always a very thin plastic and very "soft". Can't describe. But when I buy ANYTHING from aliexpress you can tell it came from china just by looking at the packaging. It has SO MANY LAYERS of plastic, and very hard and thick plastic. If you buy for example a single keychain comes with 20x the weight of it in plastic. They smell so much to plastic chemicals too, something that "western plastic" doesn't smell like. Every time I have to drink from a paper straw I remind myself that a 10x10cm sticker I bought came with 5kg of plastic and still arrived damaged from shipping.

We don't need to reduce even more. We need to somehow force china to reduce it. I am againt taxes for everything, but maybe tax the amount/weight of plastic that comes on stuff you get from china. And find a way to tax the sender, not the buyer. Maybe that will make chinese companies to actually think about reducing they 50 tons of useless plastic waste they make each second.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I've noticed that Japanese candy often has a ton of packaging. There'll be a box of small mints and you open it to find each one individually wrapped.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

No fucking shit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The thing is, chemists knew it. Nobody wanted to hear it. There are only three things worth recycling: Aluminum, glass, and electronics.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

That's extremely reductionist and inaccurate. Most metals can be recycled easily, not only aluminium.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There's still thousands if not millions of products out there marketed as microwave safe plastic. There's no such thing. Get this toxic shit out of contact with your food. Feel free to mark my words for later when the science finally catches up and shows that it's a major carcinogen.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well, as a american- everywhere I've ever worked has had a recycling bin but it's always treated as another trash can. Just something that depresses the absolute fuck out of me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

If it makes it feel any better, even if it were used properly it wouldn't get recycled

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