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    crash in Ubuntu GNU/Linux (discuss.tchncs.de)
    submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    this is the first time in many years of my GNU/Linux journey that I saw a BSOD. on my office machine BTW. personal machine has never crashed even once.
    the crash was due to 100% RAM and swap usage.

    image description:
    a mobile-clicked photo of a laptop screen. the background is full black with a sad computer image in the middle. the text below it reads: "Oh no! something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again."
    just below it is a small button with the text "log out"

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    [–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago

    You've been gnomed

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Who uses ram anyway. Go buy yourself an HDD of 12TB of swap partition

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Cloud is the future. Mount Google Drive as your swap

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

    Oh shit guys we just downloaded more RAM

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

    What if they have more than one pc? Are they supposed to buy a harddrive for each?

    Get yourself a NAS and use that for swap, much easier to share between devices!

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    100% RAM is a huge pain on Linux. I have a widget in my taskbar that always shows my RAM usage so I can tell if I'm about to get doinked

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Same, what usually spikes yours to 100%?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Up until yesterday I would've said "Firefox" (because I hoard tabs), but it turns the real answer was "Firefox running as a Snap."

    (A failed update screwed up my Snap installation, which finally gave me the kick I needed to quit procrastinating and excise it from my system once and for all. I'm running Firefox installed via apt package from Mozilla's PPA, and now -- with the same number of tabs open -- my system is hovering around 8 GB memory usage, when before it was constantly bouncing off the 32 GB redline.)

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Firefox somewhat regularly crashes or freezes up my laptop (16Gb) due to memory usage and I'm running the default Arch package. I ended up installing a memory watchdog that kills processes when they start using too much. Although I do hoard tabs.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Carelessly running too many programs and not having much RAM.

    When I get my Framework 16, I'll either get 64 or 128GBs of RAM. It's so cheap nowadays, the only thing stopping me from getting more is simply the increased time to go to sleep and wake up.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Tends to be mem leak in bad code for me

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah i only get near 100% when I'm doing a lot of virtualization or running nyx for a long time since there's a memory leak in there.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    I have 16 GB and it feels like a lot. I run virtual machines and I still have leftovers

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Manipulating gigantic log files can do it for me.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

    You know your in for a good time when notepad give a warning before hand, ive run into this before filling my 32gb of ram.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

    There are automated memory killers that should avoid this. I'm using nohang, but systemd also has some module for this.

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    The cool part is, the kernel and most of the user space is still running fine, so there's no restart required (although I would anyway), it's just gnome is having issues.

    I've had dodgy hardware cause a kernel panic, which is much more equivalent to a Windows BSOD.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I think I made it work too much. i'm running 23.10(non-LTS), hadn't shut it down for weeks, and was hoarding close to 200 tabs. furthermore, I had 3-4 electron-based applications open.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    That's not a problem. Especially because modern tabs hibernate. Linux can go forever without restarting, to the point where there are multiple services cropping up that let you upgrade your kernel while it's running, so you never have to reboot (mostly, in some edge cases it's still recommended to reboot).

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

    Oh yeah but like... Swap. And stuff.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

    Failed to allocate 17.3 TiB of memory

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    : (

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Oooh, this blokes found a beauty! I haven't seen one of those since I used an Eee PC with Debian as my daily driver. It has a whopping 1, I repeat, ONE GIGAbyte of RAM.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

    Debian is just rock solid. no matter if you use it on 1 or 16gb, it just doesn't die.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    1gb?! Is this some kinda futuristic alien tech?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    1 GB is fine for web browsing. Just make sure you have some swap and a SSD.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

    That's not a blue screen, that's a boo screen

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

    Doesn't it show an error code?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    My very first experience with installing Ubuntu was a complete failure because I just got constant kernal panics. This was 2007ish trying to install Ubuntu on a bondi blue iMac using CD I had ordered from Canonical.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    what do you use now?

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Is ai creating alt text now?

    Also, ya no system is crash proof =(

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    should I be honoured or concerned that i'm being compared to AI? I wanted it to be descriptive.
    also, facebook has been generating alt text using AI for years now. you can see the same on unsplash.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Just saying that it kinda reads. Like an ai prompt

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    I literary had this problem today!!! What I did to fix, and I'm not sure which one of these it is, but I ran all of these and I got it to work again

    sudo apt install --fix-broken

    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

    sudo apt install --reinstall gnome

    sudo apt install --reinstall xorg

    sudo apt install --fix-missing

    sudo apt autoremove

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