Imagine not caring about the lives of yeast. Humans can be so heartless.
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I prefer the nomenclature ‘uncultured’ thanks.
You seem like a fungi
Big culture in this comment chain
I can't see mushroom for improvement
well, ackshually - The fishy ingredient in beer that bothers vegetarians - BBC
Well, ackshually akshually - drink German beer. With very few exceptions, it's only allowed to contain barley, hops, yeast and water. That law has existed in some form for over 500 years.
It still allows using other substances in the production process if they are filtered out afterwards.
Which vegans would still reject.
A German guy once told me that the original penalty for violating that law was that the brewer was to be drowned in his own beer - to be fair, he was quite drunk at the time, so it might be complete bullshit.
He's confusing it with the law of Hammurabi, in which a brewer that is caught diluting his beer is sentenced thusly.
German reinheitsgebot was not as severe, nor German (it was a Bavarian law, before Germany was a thing)
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Traditional Worchestershire sauce also contains fish.
All Worcestershire sauce. It's fermented anchovy sauce with some spices.
Anything that doesn't have the anchovy, isn't Worcestershire sauce.
You can have anchovy free Worcestershire sauces. It's actually a generic term for a class of fermented sauces, many have anchovies, but it is not a requirement
and the vegan version tastes exactly the same
It's not bad, it's not too far off and can be subsituted in most situations, but it's certainly not exactly the same.
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No they aren't, unless specified. A lot is isinglass (spelling?) To clarify it, which is fish parts.
Isinglass is not used very much outside breweries trying to do really traditional British styles, because it's finicky and there are better and cheaper options. I'd say that the most common thing making beer non-vegan is adding adjuncts like lactose in milk stouts.
Some beer has honey and milk ingredients
Most non-dairy drinks can be vegan. Why do beer and wine in particular surprise you?
I told a friend of mine I was making Mead and she told me that is not interested because Mead is not vegan. I really forgot that she was vegan and then I started thinking "People usually make fun of vegan food, but beer and wine can be considered vegan (with the exception people has already pointed out) and those are fun drink"
Vegan food being a joke is also a misconception. Vegan stuff can be pretty fucking delicious, but it's more dependent on you flavoring it correctly.
If you fuck up non-vegan food, there is a good chance is it is still alright. If you fuck up vegan food, there is a good chance it's not great.
But properly prepared it can be so awesome.
As people have mentioned the seafood, ill also add that many wines use egg.
Vegan things:
Bread, potatos, noodles, water, air all vegetables, all fruits, 70+% of the average diet.
Vegan is not hard
I'm sorry but absolutely not.
Finding vegan foods is easy, as you've pointed out, however eating well as a vegan takes thought and planning. Especially in the beginning.
This is why so many people fail when they first start. They just cut out everything with animal products, and end up eating bread and salad, and give up when they're basically malnourished and starving.
Saying Vegan is not hard is a disservice to anyone seriously considering it. Instead of being condescending about it, give people resources to help them get it right.
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Not all bread and noodles are vegan, or even vegetarian.
True. Most of them though.
Dry pasta is. Any other noodle will not be. Eggs are used in a lot of places.
There's also dry pasta with eggs.
Usually sold as egg noodles, yes.
Most Italian died pasta is going to be made with just flour and water, but again, there are exceptions.
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Not vegetarian? How?
In the southern United States, we have biscuits made with bacon grease and sausage rolls, which are just rolls with ground sausage baked into them.
YEAST ARE ANIMALS!
I thought they were fungi?
But I put it in all caps
Wine is not vegan. Wine uses sulphites which are made from crustaceans.
It's isinglass rather that sulphites that makes a lot of beer and wine non-vegan. It's a type of collagen made from certain fish (not usually crustaceans, so far as I know) that makes the yeast suspended in the liquid sink and coalesce into a sediment that can be removed. If you try homebrewing you'll find that your own produce is hazy unless you use isinglass, although it doesn't significantly change the taste
It’s not the sulphites, but the chitosan that acts as a clarifier that comes from shrimp shells and makes it not vegan.
not all wine
All wines matter!
Milk and fishes are also sometimes used to filter the wine.
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