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[–] [email protected] 190 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Now if they could just take this lesson and apply it to the rest of the 'information' that is supplied by the media environment they have immersed themselves in.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 9 months ago (1 children)

These people are going to go home and be proud of how they defended the border and tell everyone about it.

"Immigrants stopped coming because we were there! See?! It works!"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Lisa, I want to buy your rock."

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But, of course, it won't occur to them that this is because their Republican masters are lying to them.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At this point they'd rather forsake god as a socialist than believe the Nazi...ahem...”Republican” party can do wrong.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I remember when debate was getting started about the ACA (Obamacare). I was debating it with my friends older brother. He is the kind of Catholic that will shame you for not going to church.

So he's ranting about the merits of universal healthcare and I asked him what Jesus would do. Let's just say he didn't like that. He later blocked me on social media and it was the last discussion we ever had.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

What a happy ending. Some people are really cynical about the Internet these days but it's things like your comment that give me hope.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The last time they tried a Civil war they failed, and destroyed their own economies in the process. That time, they had some of the best generals available. This time they have Boebert and Trump to lead them,

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (10 children)

"Best generals available" might be a bit of a stretch. That's a bit of the Lost Cause mythology still wrattling about the internet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Lee almost took it too, he didn't want to secede but he felt like he was betraying his fellow statesmen in Virginia. People forget that before the civil war people didn't think of themselves as Americans, they thought of themselves as citizens of whatever state they were from.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

On the contrary, I think your comment is a bit of a stretch in the other direction. Leaving variances in talent among individuals aside, the officers on both sides were broadly comparable because they had all gone through the same West Point training and were colleagues in the same chain of command, with the same strategy and doctrine, until the Southern ones turned traitor.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I assume ending this comment on a comma was intentional but even if it wasn't it's perfect

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (10 children)

The U.S. government has a professional army. They have nothing. And when the vast majority of the country lives paycheck-to-paycheck, you're not going to get a lot of (male, obviously, 'cause ladies is too fragile) bodies on the front lines when people can barely feed their kids on two incomes. Not without a draft. Good luck with that, Texas.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are mentally defective.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are mentally deflective.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

¿Porque no los dos?

[–] [email protected] 85 points 9 months ago (1 children)

MAGA convoy confused by red laser pointer

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised any of them even made it to Texas, considering how hard they descended into paranoia and fear.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (2 children)

confused Trumpanzee noises

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Wait… wasn't there a huge invasion of South American immigrants about to hit our border in 2020? What ever happened to them? And what about the roving bands of Antifa attacking small towns?

These fucking idiots believe whatever the fuck is fed to them. They don't remember all the times that info was wrong and realign. That's why they're dangerous: they aren't operating on even the appearance of facts.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They have the memories of goldfish. Remember Jade Helm, where supposedly Democrats were going to put Republicans in Walmarts converted into concentration camps? When that didn't happen, did all those MAGA idiots who believed it say, "huh. Maybe I should rethink things?" No, they just forgot it was even a thing they said was going to happen within a day or two.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I saw a cop bodycam video with someone who was talking about (jade jelm) that during the time it was supposedly happening / about to happen. Absolutely stunning.

The guy who chased an officer in the Capitol on J6 (Douglas Jensen) reportedly kept asking FBI agents if they knew who Q was or if they were in on the op. I think he was confused why they weren't a part of it or some such drivel. These people mostly have the lowest media literacy and ability to work through logic. They are 100% id-driven. The small amount that think rationally run the grift at the top, such as Bannon and that ilk.

I didn't know anything about JH until sometime last year. Here's from Wikipedia:

Jim Shea of the Hartford Courant wrote that the conspiracy theories included: a "psychological operation aimed at getting people used to seeing military forces on the streets" so that they do not realize when an invasion actually takes place; an international operation aimed to seize people's guns; recently closed Walmarts used by the military to "stockpile supplies for Chinese troops who will be arriving to disarm Americans"; and a military plan to "round up political dissidents" and "remove key political figures" who may be against the imposition of martial law.[17] Other theories have described Jade Helm 15 as a "secret plot" to impose martial law, confiscate firearms, invade Texas, and institute "total population control."[18]

Seriously, who the fuck can believe this stupid shit? We're gonna have a foreign power come take your guns? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Conservatives have only enough thought to register emotions. No ability to question a narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's like they didn't expect any of these losers to actually get off their asses and see for themselves that it's bullshit. Whoops.

Not that it matters for the rest of them. They're too far gone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, the infamous iMmIgRaNt CaRaVaN.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago

Let's tell them that there's a border invasion at the site of the Titanic wreckage

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

My first thought when I read the title was

Is this the onion?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Somehow I think they are confused about a lot of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know what I expected. I can tell you it’s not as bad as what I thought.

Which is it you stupid?! How did civilization get this way? I can’t take it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How did civilization get this way?

Well, it started when Nixon posited that conservatives needed a republican news outlet to frame political problems in a way that always casted republicans in a good light, that way a media-landslide like Watergate wouldn't happen again. Fox News was born, and has slowly been pushing our society into what it is now.

So, to answer your question, the snowball started rolling about 50 years ago.

In the scenario in your comment, that very same news network told a bunch of gullable, trained idiots that we are being invaded, in order to make republican policy look good.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (29 children)

The most connected period in human history also produces the dumbest humans, apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

meanwhile, I ran into some moron from another country trying to tell me, an American, about how 26 US state governors have stood against the government and are "amassing troops at the texan border."

Fucking hilarious if it weren't so fucking sad and dangerous.

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