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Communists have been conditioned against reason (hexbear.net)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Found this on a reddit-logo post about Superman: Red Son. Clicked on the person's profile to see more and surprise surprise their account is suspended.
The replies have some interesting takes too.

In particular you see it in Red Son Superman’s approach to justice and punishment, how he values a person’s utility to society far more than their free-will or personal beliefs. Arguably mind control is better than capital punishment and forced labor as practiced by stalin before him, but it still comes from the same desire to beat people into obedience as though they are misbehaved dogs.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

It is written, to make a coat you need at least 50 yards of feelings and 0 hours of logic. last-sight

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only reason Superman even gets into mind control is because Brainiac is manipulating him in an attempt to get Superman to just up and take over the world

And Superman still doesn't do it!, even with an entire museum's worth of monsters and supervillians the USA sent after him

Like what the actual fuck is wrong with people that they miss that entire part of the book?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably only watched the animated version which is a bad adaptation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's dogshit, strips it of everything good

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Liberals think all political distinction comes from being misinformed. It's why they think a big grand speech cures any problem. They can't imagine someone would be against liberalism for valid reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

But not too big or grand of a speech, otherwise that’s populism which is literally hitlerism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unironically, would be rad if an alien superhuman crashed in the USSR and he grew up on a collective farm, and used his superpowers to get them to not stop at Berlin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that happens in the comic but it's a goofy nonsense idea of what communism even is. Strangely though it's a very good depiction of what a Superman would actually be like, a complete megalomaniac with a god complex.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

So they made the communist Superman behave like he actual would if he was raised in the capitalist west?

Always projection

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Red Sun is one of the best 'elseworld' ideas DC ever came up with.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

At times I still prefer this liberal-lite take. The people who talk about communists as devils and lunatics are really embracing their inner fascist. Seeing a commie as a mislead idealist shows a heart still ticking in there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

conditioned against reason

I saw a summary of Red Son by some anti communist, and I don’t get it… the USSR is portrayed as evil but the US literally starts TWO wars with the USSR for no reason. Communist Superman literally fights against realistic, material threats that threaten his countrymen, and frankly, the world (to the extent that the US military literally has superpowers), whereas normal Superman media is just him fighting intergalactic alien armies that decide to take over earth which causes everyone to stop giving a shit about anything else - shit that don’t matter at all outside of cartoons.

Also Bruce Wayne being some poor, starving gulag prisoner is extremely funny. It’s the equivalent of making fan fiction where Bezos is a hobo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I don’t expect people trying to make a serious analysis of mediocre capeshit written by smug libs to have the best politics themselves, tbh.

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