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BERLIN (Reuters) - Support for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) dropped slightly in two polls published on Tuesday after 10 days of nationwide protests against the far-right party, although it remained firmly in second place.

Support for the AfD dropped 2 percentage points to 20% in a Forsa poll, the lowest level in four months. The party remained behind the opposition conservatives on 31% but still well ahead of all the three parties in Chancellor Olaf Scholz's centre-left coalition, who together were polling 32%.

The AfD dropped 1.5 percentage points on the week to 21.5% in the poll by the German Institute for New Social Answers (INSA), behind the conservatives on 30.5% and the ruling coalition on 31%.

"The demonstrations against the AfD are supported by 37% of Germans and they are showing an impact," INSA chief Hermann Binkert said.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To people that are saying the protests are all words and no action. This is what the action accomplishes. There's a subset of people that only mildly supported AfD or thought that their rheteoric wouldn't affect them but publicizing the secretive meeting and master-plan gets at least a few people to realize what's going on.

Sure there will still be a bunch of people that don't realize they're being had for suckers. It will only be too late when the supporters realize "they aren't hurting who they needing to be hurting".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

10 % of voters wavering is not a lot though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's double-digit. How many would qualify as a lot?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Because 20 of 22 % of voters not caring is much more.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It blows my mind that fascism is on the rise in fucking 21th century. IN WESTERN DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Those fucks promise easy solutions for hard problems, and the best thing, you don't have to change and only need to vote for them. Fuckers thrive on Chaos and other people trying to explain hard topics

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Actual Nazism being on the rise in Germany is pretty insane. You would think that the education system would have prevented these ideas from rising again, but apparently all you need is the economy taking a downturn and everything that they learned goes out of the window to blame minorities for their problems..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Been living in Germany for a few years now, I'm absolutely not surprised. Germans may have learned that throwing people in ovens is bad, but they never learned that they are not übermenschen. Which eventually means the former creeps back in

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That’s because everyone hung up their hats and rested on their laurels starting right after WWII. Now that the promise of that time turned out to be a lie, people are angry and looking for a place to project their malaise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What the article fails to mention is the new party BSW, which is now in the polls for the first time and drew some % away from other parties, including the AfD. That alone is enough to explain the slight change in AfD support.

BSW combines nationalist views on immigration with socialist economic principles, and a foreign policy based on sucking Putin's dick.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Misleading title:

It looks like the numbers of polls from INSA in 2024 were 7 and the percentage number for AfD varied from 18 to 23.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election#2024

Since the 18% was on the 11th-12th of January, why celebrate that after so many mass protests this number is at 21,5%?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That particular poll seems to be an outlier with BSW getting 14% and most other parties scoring lower than on other recent polls.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

The fact that it's the lowest one doesn't make it an outlier. It's just the first numeric value in a range going from 18 to 23.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The lights turn on, and the cockroaches scatter. Look at that.

I actually respect people who are racists and open about it, in a way. They're very wrong, and obviously resistant to education on why, but at least they're being true to what they think is right. A lot of these people have to know they're rotten on some level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of a conversation in the Wire between Carcetti and Bunny, about "Old Man Stryker": https://youtu.be/MTrvAnP5U18?si=UvjiXno_gbefGCuG

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Man, I've got to watch that sometime. It's been famously underrated for so long it almost counts as hype.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's a slow start, but it's worth the investment IMHO. Have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The problem is is that people who vote AfD wont take any protests seriously. They know that their beliefs are toxic. They dont care.