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It is unclear how Ukraine succeeded in shooting down the command planes flying above the Sea of Azov

Ukraine’s military has shot down two of Russia’s command planes, in one of the most disastrous days for the Kremlin’s air power since the start of Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion.

Valerii Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine’s commander in chief, said his air force had destroyed an A-50 long-range radar detection aircraft and an Il-22 control centre plane. Both were flying above the Sea of Azov on Sunday when they were hit at 9.10pm local time.

The A-50, which detects air defences and coordinates targets for Russian jets, crashed instantly, killing its crew. The badly damaged Il-22 appears to have made an emergency landing at an airfield in Anapa, Russia.

It is unclear how Ukraine managed to target and shoot down the planes. One theory is that a Patriot anti-aircraft missile battery – supplied by the US – was used. This, however, would involve moving the system close to the frontline where it could be detected.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago

Its unclear how Ukraine managed to target and shoot down the planes.

Well, when you're defending your home, you tend to test the limits of systems. I would wager some of those classified maximum ranges and flight speeds are classified for such a reason.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago

Slava Ukraini

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hate to have been in the A50 when you could see the missle coming, but couldn't do a thing about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imagine it as a modified transport plane. The American versions are typically based off the 737 airframe, although Russia's are not, it's still similar enough to see why "eject" isn't really an option.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't the Boeing airframes have removable door panels at least for jumping out of?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ejection through explosive decompression

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's a Russian plane, so you never know.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Came here to see lemmygrad spin from the fascists. Was not disappointed by their absence in this thread (so far).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

The plane retreated to the ground very fast to take a strategically better positions there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ukraine’s military has shot down two of Russia’s command planes, in one of the most disastrous days for the Kremlin’s air power since the start of Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion.

Valerii Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine’s commander in chief, said his air force had destroyed an A-50 long-range radar detection aircraft and an Il-22 control centre plane.

Pro-Kremlin bloggers suggested the planes were hit by friendly fire or even shot down by a team of British SAS operatives using surface-to-air missiles.

Kyiv’s counter-offensive last year failed and in recent months Russia has launched a wave of attacks across the east, along a frozen frontline, seeking to regain the initiative.

Since last year Ukraine has systematically degraded Russian military infrastructure in occupied Crimea, targeting radar stations and other installations.

It bombed the headquarters of Russia’s Black Sea fleet in the port of Sevastopol and has forced naval vessels to relocate to safer harbours.


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