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"Pro Tiananmen Square posts get removed off of Chinese social media? No shit. Imagine if the January 6th protestors had strung up and set a bunch of the National Guard on fire and you posted saying they didn't go far enough, most places on the web would remove your posts, except maybe Elon Musk's twitter."

Pros: Any libs wanting to engage would have to either read more about the events leading up to and during the Tiananmen Square protests or admit that January 6th was a nothing event

Cons: none

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago

That would be kind of funny. "Yeah, in Tiannamen Square a bunch of MAGA fascists attacked the police with molotovs and killed dozens of them then stole guns. All the military and police there were totally unarmed so they had to wait until armed soldiers could come fight the MAGA people!"

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"That's different because the evil Mao Zedong killed millions of people by squashing them with tanks and spraying them down the storm drains. Our own capitol police only killed via tasing them in the balls."

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Admittedly, a far funnier way to kill someone

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That is assuming they are behaving in good faith. In their mind it is not the same because China is authoritarian and USA is not.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

an empty thought-terminating word that instantly destroys my respect for anyone who uses it seriously

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait you respected libs in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

At one time I am ashamed to admit it but yes

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

China is authoritarian and USA is not.

I keep saying this, because I'm afraid of what the US government will do to me if I stop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Communism bad.

I love the US where I do not need to fear being surveilled at all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I mean it is a case of "Our beautiful removing calls to violence vs Their barbaric political suppression" but at the same time, using January 6th in the bit is how it's possibly a way to break into their head.

Take an event that is such a feature in their brainspace and ask them to imagine if it was so much worse than even their memories of the event. Imagine if the January 6th protestors really HAD been sent support and money by [spins wheel] Russia. Imagine they went around on their jeeps and trucks shooting police and National Guard. Ask them to relate to another group of people and how they might feel about a specific event of political violence in living memory.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It does not matter. They'll just make shit up about how the PLA did this or that, if not just call you an authoritarian 1984 tankie [insert homophobic joke about how much you love Xi here].

Ample experience has taught me that it's completely useless to argue with these people.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Libs were praising the HK rioters storming the legislature and see no problem with them turning around and condemning Jan 6th.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

At least the J6 rioters weren't brazen enough to hang a Union Jack in the Capitol.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

good place to post this comprehensive Mango Press article on the June 4 Incident:

The Tian’anmen Square “Massacre”: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie | Mango Press

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT TIANMMENENEENENENE SQUARE IN CHINA!"

Because no one knows what you're talking about bc it's the June 4 Incident and no one thinks it was a very big deal.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

very-smart absence of the evidence is the strongest form of evidence.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

wish I knew what happened to Mango Press, last activity on Twitter was a year ago and their website is busted due to an SSL error

EDIT: also the linked author's twitter account (GundanSlayer) appears to have been deleted

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Idk but they're some kind of quirky british socialists iirc? They do exist irl? I think?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

You didn't yet?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago