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[–] 44 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I hope this is his swan song. Patrick Stewart is amazing, and I love Captain Picard, but he's not Harrison Ford. The franchise will be fine without him. We don't need to play out Too Short a Season in real life

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Three seasons of PIC were already a mistake. The only good thing coming from it is the possibility of a Riker cooking/baking show (which I would totally watch).

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In rewatching the original series and TNG thereafter, the consistent factor, regardless of the early special effects, was the scripts. The dialogue was always great. In ST: Picard, the dialogue is trash.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    2 seasons were a mistake and by far the worst trek seasons from any show, the third season while being massive fan service was just what I seemingly wanted as I loved every second and was a great ending to the TNG crew

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I just watch the third season and pretend all of the random references to the early seasons happened in a more logical way.

    I knew somebody who was running a "what could have been" Star Trek TTRPG campaign based around episodes of Voyager that could have been executed better, I think I would love to run a campaign that had plot elements from Picard's first two seasons as a personal headcanon.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I think the difference between Stewart and Ford is that Stewart seems more to be doing it because he enjoys this character. Ford seems to be doing it in spite of his feelings.

    As long as Stewart is still having fun, I'm happy with him continuing as long as he wants.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    No. Please, no.

    The Picard show was already dreadfully bad and has effectively destroyed TNG and Q for me, please let the dead body rest on piece, no more.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Did you watch Season 3 of Picard?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's dreadful. Just gathering up the old cast for nostalgia sake. Quite an anticlimactic resolution to the enemy fight too.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's fair. I enjoyed it, but I can see why you wouldn't. Hopefully we can agree at least 3 was better than 1 & 2.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In my opinion the first Picard season is the best. It actually tries something different; a new crew and ship and rules.

    Season 2 is in that patronizing and lecturing tone that feels extra misplaced for anyone outside the United States.

    Season 3 is complete creative sellout and I hate it. It was sort of nice to see them all again, but that’s pretty much it. Nostalgia bait everywhere, with a weird hamfisted plot. Barely a single original idea in that series, just a theme park ride to check all the boxes… look at the old crew on the bridge! Even data is back after we just let him die in season 1! Look at the E N T E R P R I S E, and we are fighting the borg PLUS the changelings!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Oh man, I'd repressed the memory that Q was in s2 of Picard! I kind of liked the first season but the follow-ups were nostalgia dumpster fires. Literally what Sir PatStew said he didn't want to make going into the show.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I prefer to think that Picard is just still stuck in the Nexus and everything that has happened to him since has been a result of magic Nexus fever dreams.

    Movie Picard and PIC Picard acted nothing like TNG Picard to the point where they were seemingly completely different people. Movie Picard wanted to make the Borg pay for what they did and literally beat in dead Borg with his fists and snapped the Borg queen’s spine in two with his bare hands while TNG Picard knew things weren’t that cut and dry and even had an opportunity to potentially genocide the works of them and didn’t because ethics and shit. Movie Picard would have drove Hugh up to their doorstep infected with the fractal virus the first chance he had.

    PIC Picard… is literally an android I guess? But still old? They kind of ignored that later. So, literally he isn’t the same Picard as TNG Picard.

    The Nexus is my head canon.

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    I thought we had seen it all.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Picard was already bordering on elder abuse.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it might be self-inflicted. Patrick Stewart is big enough that he can make it so with regard to the scripts. He's the one that insisted there be a dune buggy chase scene in Nemesis, for example. And he's pushed for more action and romance in the movies. I suspect that this is another case of a good actor or writer who works best when tempered by outside control.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    I gave up watching Picard at the end of Season 1 after

    spoilerthey kill Picard and replace him with an android.
    If it's not actually Jean-Luc, I'm not interested. And I'm definitely not interested in returning to Picard's universe with all of those boring ass characters if it means that they'll do another time-travel plotline to save his life. Yawn.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Season 1 and 2 sucked ass, but season 3 is actually pretty great and you can watch it as a stand alone without really needing to watch the previous 2 seasons.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Season 1 was such absolute dog shit. The orbital defense flowers, "JL" etc... but yeah, S3 feels like Kurtzman got kicked in the sack and someone else made Picard. I recommend watching S3 and forgetting the other two were ever made.

    Also in S1 Jean Luc Picard picked a bar fight. The person that had his dick dragged through a mile of broken glass getting killed by a Nossican over and over in a bar fight, went to pick a bar fight. What was that show?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Picard had a lot of promise, and they almost got it, but overall it was trash IMO. More Star Wars and hand waiving than Trek. It was a beautifully made universe, the SFX were superb, but they seemed to spent all their time and money on that, and none on dialogue or character consistency. Picard is nothing of his former self. He spends three seasons whining and complaining rather than commanding. The writers invent a traumatic backstory for him, depicting his authoritative personality as a character flaw as a result of trauma, rather than a strength of character. I rather disliked what they did to him.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    S03 was the movie we never got, they just need to leave this one alone. It's most likely being talked about because Picard S03 got the best ratings of all the new Trek shows. But it was already quite a perfect ending. We don't need another Picard movie, Trek needs to continue on the small screen with #StarTrekLegacy.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Will skip this if it gets made. All good things for Picard really came to an end after that episode.

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  • I heard only last night about a script that is being written, but written specifically with the actor, Patrick [Stewart], to play in it. And I’ve been told to expect to receive it within a week or so.

    Notably, that week was several weeks ago:

    TrekMovie has confirmed with Josh Horowitz that this interview was recorded in early November as Stewart was out promoting his new memoir, Making It So.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    He'll die before it happens. Don't think people realise quite how old the guy is. I love him to bits but it's like David Attenborough, just let the man rest, he's given us enough.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Please just fucking retire TNG already. It's time to move on. Give us that Seven show with a gay captain. I'd watch the hell out of that.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    TBH, i never seem to like anything thats made after Voyager or Nemesis. And i understand it, the new movies and new series are made for a different (broader) audience, so it needs splendor and lots of shooting, but to me thats not what Star Trek was about.

    Ive always hoped they’d make a serie with the USS Prometheus, but alas! I’ll just keep rewatching Voyager and DS9 untill i die, i guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    If this thread is anything to go by, me and my other half were the only people on the planet that actually enjoyed Picard S1 and 2, and didn't like S3 as much.

    In that spirit, if a film is made I look forward to enjoying it even if I'm the only one.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)
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    i will always love a new picard movie since i have memories of watching tng with my dad and i loved picard but i still want them to make star trek legacy

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