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[–] 93 points 2 years ago (21 children)

It is actually wild to think about the progress humanity has made in the last hundred years or so, we went from the Wright brothers to walking on the moon in a human lifetime.

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  • [–] 96 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The only thing separating modern man from caveman is education, and that explains an awful lot about the world.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Technological progress is exponential.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I think that's true for only a planet with indefinite resources. We haven't really hit many caps yet, but I believe things will start to slow down within a lifetime.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    We're also, in my view, hitting the limits of what certain technologies can do. Internal combustion engines, for example, are near the limit of what they can do as far as efficiency is concerned. We're also bumping into the limits as far as semiconductors are concerned.

    There's also diminishing returns with trying to wring out the very last piece of efficiency from a system, so yes, I do think we're going to see a plateau in terms of technological progress, at least in some areas.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    This is true for older technologies.

    Like combustion as you said, we used it a lot and pretty much designed it the best we can with the materials we know and have. But there will be completely new technologies opening up, like maybe fusion. Or solar we know already since a while but made major improvements the last decade and will probably improve it even more.

    I was more thinking about how we had this technology rush. I think it is mostly due to the use of fossil fuels and therefore "incredible cheap" energy which also led to humans reproduce a lot. (incredible cheap in quotation marks, because we will probably have to pay the real price which is environmental damage and a modified atmosphere)

    When you have a world with 3 times (random number based on nothing) more people you also have 3 times more great artists, scientists, etc. Of course only, if society stays more or less the same. Imagine how many great works we could have if the majority of great minds wasn't preoccupied paying for food and a place to stay like in a hamster wheel.

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    [–] 67 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What's even more of a mind-fuck is that on cosmological scales all that has happened in such a briefly miniscule time period that it might as well have not happened at all

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Exponential growth. That first 195,000 years was every tribe figuring out super basic stuff we take for granted, then gradually building upon that with other basic stuff we take for granted. Even before agriculture, pottery, metallurgy, herbal medicine, the basic knowledge these were built from took millennia to work out and pass down.

    The real secret sauce was communication. Once tribes started sharing knowledge, suddenly the base of knowledge to built on got higher, and broader. Written language, better means of travel, this sped up the process. Electronic communication has made that knowledge base pretty much universally accessible and combinable.

    Progress is faster when you're not limited to what your direct tribal ancestors figured out and passed down.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago

    It's been updated to 300 000 years 5 years ago from this discovery: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jebel_Irhoud Funny how in this science we can get +50% older from a single discovery.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    Aside from the little disagreement we had and still working on, we're doing OK I guess

    A Brief Disagreement

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Also a LOT of those people had PTSD from wars or from lion attacks or from simply losing a massive amount of their offspring to illness and accidents. They raised your ancestors anyway.

    This cycle has only recently been broken and not everywhere.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Fire > Agriculture > Antibiotics > Rockets

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Written language. No joke. It allowed us to grow collectively, logarithmically.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Aaaaagriculture

    And balls of steel

    But really it's agriculture that enables us to have time and space to create things like society and technology. A society with rule of law and intellectual property allows for a lucky few to spend most of their time understanding how to make nature work for us, leading to industrialization and the crazy growth we're able to experience in a human lifetime.

    I would say we are still in the very beginning stages of planetary exploration. Once someone is making a profit in space without military or scientific money, the fun will really begin.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Laziness.

    "Alright fellas, time to start walking to the next camp. They dont call us nomads for nothing."

    Paleolithic me: "Alright hear me out. What if, and I know this is gonna sound crazy, what if we just stay here. Forever?"

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    It really breaks my mind. And the actual biggest progress is in the last 150 years. And how things accelerated in the last 30..

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    But why didn't it start 20,000 years ago

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Advancements in manufacturing processes and computers. And computers help store and send information, enabling more improvements.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Writing

    It's also why I think a lot of people are underestimating just how far LLMs will be able to go as they improve at extracting patterns and models from written language.

    What writing was able to encode was responsible for a massive leap in human intelligence.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Might sound crazy but a guess I have is encountering and consuming natural entheogens. Early cave paintings (7000-9000 years ago) depict psychedelic mushrooms.

    The alterations in perception and perspective these substances cause could explain experimentation in other areas of life, leading to changes in how people lived. The modern era just built on top of past advances.

    Just a thought from a guy who use to trip and had some life-altering times. Also worth noting Steve Jobs considered his experiences with LSD to be a profound experience, “one of the most important things in my life”. I wonder if we’d have Apple or many other modern era advances if he hadn’t had his encounters with psychedelics.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Terence McKenna called this the Stoned Ape Theory; eating psychedelic mushrooms gave us our first religious experiences and was an evolutionary catalyst that brought about language, arts, philosophy, etc. It's been widely disregarded as a viable theory but who knows, it's fun to think about at least.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    An alien came down and knocked up a monkey. Or something like that.

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