This isn't just mildly interesting. We should be considering methods of air cooling that do not use any carbon in order to avoid aircon usage becoming a contributor to the climate problem as things get hotter and hotter.
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A modern home ACs can only cool about 20f below the outside temperature. 50c to 35c is 27 degrees so that's pretty damn good for a fancy unpowered swamp cooler
Yeah, the thing is the "unpowered" part. Look how much energy an AC chugs to achieve that cooling. This tower uses wind power to do it's thing.
The AC is also small compared to a literal building with a sewer underneath and doesn't require a windy day. Trade offs
well technically it is powered, just directly by wind and water kinetic energy, probably(?) much more efficiently than if it had been converted to electricity first
What’s your source for this? It routinely gets over 100 here and buildings aren’t 80 degrees inside.
We're talking celsius, I hope for your sake it doesn't routinely get to 100 C where you are. :)
Edit: The user actually said 20 F, I got confused by the mix of units. "50c to 35c is 27 degrees" didn't make sense to me, but I figured I'd let it slide. No idea what's going on here. :)
They're full of it, that's it. Maybe in their house which lacks sufficient insulation. Heat pumps (i.e. air conditioning) are/is extremely efficient at moving heat around, there's not really a practical limit on it, particularly if you go geothermal.
pretty sure 50c to 35c is 15 degrees
I wonder how he got his number, it makes no sense.
EDIT: oh, he just randomly mixed °C and °F, because why not...
50c is 122f, 35c is 95f so he went 50c-35c = 122f-95f = 27f because why the fuck not.
That's just not true, a modern home can be at 70f or below when its 110f outside. Air comes out at 50-55 even at those outside temps.
What do you mean modern AC can only cool by 20F?
I’m in Florida and it’s routinely 95-98F outside. My AC is set to 65F.
Did you mean 20C? Either way, that’s also false. AC units are limited to their rating and BTU. Many may not cool below 60F, but there’s no delta limit.
10 degrees is incredible though.
These days in Yazd the average warmest temperature in July is 40 degrees, so if what you're saying is correct they'd be able to cool it down to a liveable 30 degrees even in the warmest part of the day. And at night temperatures still dip to 26, so the indoors temperature probably wouldn't quite reach 40 even without this system. So it might make the difference between 40 degrees outdoors and high 20s indoors, which is fantastic.
Would be interesting to know if average temperatures got up to 40 in the summer around the time they were built as well, or if average temperatures in the region have been rising.
I love passive systems. The more passive the better.
I've read that these wind catchers were used to keep ice frozen in ice pits during summer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l
Fun fact: Ancient Persia had ice cream like desserts enjoyed year round.
Amazing - I had no idea that anyone was making ice in the desert in BCE times. The wikipedia article seems to indicate that they did a lot of storing of ice in the Yakhchal structures - but it is confusing as to how they made it. It seems like they either gathered the ice from the mountains, or made it in outdoor shaded "ice pools" that were situated next to the Yakhchal. Surely the ice required winter desert temps to form? Otherwise how would the thermal mass of the ground ever get cool enough to allow ice to form, even with the magic of physics? The permanent shading helps, but year round-ice making surely wasn't a thing, was it?
It's called evaporative cooling and it's quite potent since water takes enormous amounts of energy when changing states. It takes around 5x the energy to convert 100°C water into 100°C vapor than it takes to increase temperature of said water from 0 to 100°. This energy has to be taken from somewhere and that is from the environment, dropping the temperature as a result. Problem with these is that the humidity of the air increases. Not much of a problem in desert, quite a bit problem in other places.
Here's a great video explaining science behind evaporative coolers and how it can be modernized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_g4nT4a28U
Just wind tunnels without water, I agree with you.
Wind powered swamp cooler. Basically a humidifier, but it does lower the temperature. I've heard people call swamp coolers air conditioning, so I don't think it's wrong.
Lotta old Victorian homes and factories from that Era did the same thing (without water obviously just a big tower to catch the wind). More like an attic fan than an AC in those cases, still a pretty clever way to move air without electricity. Always impressed by how clever people were back in the old times
Not quite an air conditioner, but it seems modernizing it could be a great idea for new constructions to save on power. Maybe as a supplement to Air Conditioners.
Not quite an air conditioner, but it seems modernizing it could be a great idea for new constructions to save on power. Maybe as a supplement to Air Conditioners.
It's called "radiant floor cooling/heating" and this has existed for a while.
Not really mentioned in the picture but Qanats are basically underground aquaducts, bringing water from nearby mountains to the cities. They can be up to 70km long. We went into one when I visited Iran.
Ancient Iran had swamp coolers* to be more accurate here.
This works in the desert, but you can't replicate it in a humid climate like you can with AC.
I tought this was a meme and have been looking for Saddam Hussein's red sillouette for half a minute.
Wow, I thought quanat was a made-up word from dune.
If "Kwisatz Haderach" is also a real thing that would be weird.
It's derived from Hebrew.
Iran used to have AC. They still do, but they used to, too.
This looks like some other things I have heard of before.
Makes me wonder how many ancient desert cultures designed ways to cool the air in their structures.
I was told that the houses in trinidad, Cuba have a similar cooling effect. Also the round white houses in tunesia have a cooling effect. Any tunesian or Cubans here?
I remember using something similar to that in college but if I recall correctly it was for weed
I think that the Eastgate Mall in Zimbabwe makes usage of a similar principle, but their inspiration came from Termite Mounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8DSdfoiZw
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