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Thanks Ada ❤️, good to know that those sorts of things are kept off blåhaj!

Nah, some people like to look at grannies. Some like newly legal models.

The key here is that everyone in these two buckets are consenting adults. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. Don’t look at it.

It doesn’t “skirt a boundary,” it’s 100% adults and within the boundary. I’m really glad you’re not the one making laws.

What even was the community, I dont see any focused on CSAM, or appearing as it. Was it small breasts?

Good choice and thank you.

Editing to add, I read the post addressing this on the other instance, and the message screenshots between Ada and the nsfw admins, and the nsfw admin's ignorance sure looks willful to me. They're defending an nsfw community that had "child-like" as one of the adjectives they emphasize in the sidebar until after this defederation took place. Not acceptable.

To me the community in question seems to be intended to be about cute/happy/wholesome nsfw content but I can see how that idea could be twisted by pedophiles who fetishize "innocence". But no matter what the intended nature of that community, lemmynsfw is host to a few other extremely awful communities, like one for posting pictures of people you know without their knowledge/consent, and it seems like the admins are either not interested or not able to moderate all of it.

Plus the federated timeline sorted by new is just clogged with bots on lemmynsfw spamming images from reddit

I don't have an issue with the defederation call, and transparency regarding decisions around defederation is very healthy and good!

However, one of the more complicated implications of Lemmy's federated structure is that defederation on instances is more of "everybody's business" than it is on Mastodon, since Lemmy instances host communities and not just users. I don't have much sympathy for free speech absolutists who feel the need to frame all defederation as "censorship" or some of form of tyranny, but since it is potentially splitting the user bases of communities on blahaj that folks on other instances have joined, it makes sense for folks on other instances to want their voices to be heard.

(Obviously, there are constructive and non-constructive ways to do that.)

This is also why the answer to everything won't be "just run your own instance." It's important that more instances have well-developed and transparent moderation standards both internally and externally, and users will need to be savvy about the moderation landscape when they choose what instances to start communities on. (This will be a little less loaded of a question if/when Lemmy gets the ability to migrate communities.)

I think there's a lot of "cross that bridge when we come to it" mindset amongst some of the bigger instance admins that is in the long run is much more detrimental than any one defederation call could be.

I think it's a great idea. Ada you're doing great by us and we appreciate you!