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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Capitalism is the thing that killed the last staple crop species of banana and it's what's killing this one. I say socialism is the only way we will keep having bananas.

No seriously, one of them has already gone extinct due to irresponsible farming practices and the current one is on that path too!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol kinda funny because bananas are in real risk of extinction ( at least the cavendish banana, which is the one you get at ur supermarket and widely cultivated in latin america ) thanks to a root disease called 'panama virus'. All banana trees are clones so they are very susceptible to root diseases, it already killed the more tasty gros michel variety banana.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism is when potassium deficiency

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh, just eat potatoes or something. They have over twice the potassium content per serving than a banana. Heck there's actually dozens of other foods that have way higher potassium content than them. Even dandelions have more potassium than bananas.... A literal weed. haha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder why potassium would get associated with this fruit that doesn't totally have a yk what.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bananas still do have a very high amount of potassium, plus they are sweet and people enjoy eating them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe it all started from that stupid scene from the "Honey we Shrunk Ourselves" movie from years and years ago.

https://youtu.be/xmhEOvfaSKM

So like I guess if you sibling is dying from potassium deficiency and all you have is bananas....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably same reason, but still nothing compared with decades of spinach torture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah but who wants to eat dandelions? And potatoes get boring fast.

Having a sweet fruit thats extremely cheap and accessable helps fit the niche.

You don’t need to cook a banana to eat it and it takes under a minute to eat one.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And potatoes get boring fast.

You better be joking comrade. Potatoes feed the masses. Don't be dissing the people's food.

I'm not saying not to eat bananas, but if your goal is potassium, there's way better options. It would take 9 bananas to get your daily intake vs like 4 medium sized potatoes... or like 3 cups of beat greens or 4 cups of swiss chard or spinach leaves. You could literally make a medium sized salad and get the whole go of potassium right there and have less than half your daily calories in.

https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/food-sources-potassium

Also, I'm just gonna say it, bananas are a pain in the ass to manage. You get a whole bunch and then there like a 3 day window for when they are good to eat. So I guess it's good you need to eat so many to get in that potassium. lol. I mean sure, you could eat them when they aren't fully ripe... if you are a psychopath, and sure, when they are overripe you can make banana bread, but like, nobody does that. Potatoes? Leave those things in an old cupboard for like 3 or 4 months, or longer, and they will still be good. Dry them into powder and have instant mashed potatoes whenever. There's like, a bajillion ways to cook potatoes and add them to other dishes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thesis: bananas

Antithesis: potatoes

Synthesis: plantains

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair. Plantains have about 50% more potassium than bananas which is also around 50-60% less than a potato. Lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always saw plantains as potato-like bananas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They really are. More starchy, better if you cook them. Don't get me wrong, bananas are delicious, but man are they sugar/carb heavy. Only time I eat em now is when it's a Friday, I've had some beers, my diet died 2 hours ago, I have no shame, a jar of peanut butter, and there just so happens to be someone else's uneaten bananas on the counter about to go bad.... I know this sound really specific, but it's not an uncommon occurrence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dandelions are actually delicious. I’ve had dandelion tempura before and it was the best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But yeah, that’s a tempura. Meaning it’s cooked.

No one is going to be eating dandelions raw like they do bananas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will only be one banana and everyone will have to share.

Bonus: If you are in possession of the People's Banana and the People's Toothbrush at the same time you get on free spin on the magic prize wheel.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you possess the People's Toothbrush and the People's Banana and the People's Stick you become Supreme Leader General Secretary of the Communist Party of the United People's Republic of the Solar System

We could make a Zelda-like game with that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Tbf "Supreme Leader General Secretary of the Communist Party of the United People’s Republic of the Solar System" is a dope ass title.

Also if I didn't suck at programming, meme communist games would be something I could see myself doing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Yes. Reminder to liberals and anarchists, socialism and international trade aren't mutually exclusive.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

No! They are the fruit of the bourgeois! And no, I won't elaborate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Fruit bearing ancap colours? Nuh uh😠.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not reading through that entire article (which is just Twitter discourse in article form), but honestly, that question itself seems badly posed.

Obviously, socialists aren't going to introduce a policy like "No more bananas" or "We must have bananas at any costs". In a country where bananas don't grow, availability of bananas will depend on desire to import bananas, and another country being willing to sell you bananas. I vaguely remember something about bananas being rare in the GDR because there were few friendly countries that grew bananas (though that might have been an anti-communist source, or plain made up, I don't know, but it doesn't sound too unrealistic). Availability of bananas will depend on the circumstances you're building socialism under.

From that article:

Although he does not identify as a “degrowther,” Harris rejects the “pro-growth” left’s suggestion that the American consumer’s preferences are sacrosanct.

I have no idea what this discourse is, but this line bothers me so much. Imagine caring about "American consumer's preferences". This is so stupid. If socialism ever somehow manages to take power in the USA, they really must work on changing societal attitude. US society, its values, its ways of thought reflect the worst that capitalism and imperialism have to offer. Socialism cannot succeed if these ways of thought go unaddressed. And whatever bullshit led to "I am consoomer and I am owed banana" is one of the things that have to go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Similarly, we shouldn’t just ban meat, but have its price reflect its environmental impact so that can be dealt with and reduced rather than externalized like the profit motive would dictate. It’s absurd and unnatural for corn and beef to be so cheap and subsidized in the US. It’s far more reasonable for a burger to be $50 like in Venezuela than $5 in the US.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But this shouldn’t then apply only meat. Items like almonds and alfalfa should also reflect their absurd environmental impact and detriment to the world.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same with gas powered cars, over time it’ll become to expensive to fill up your car and people will switch to a cheaper alternative

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most important question facing the American left today.

If true, that says much more about the state of the American left than it does about the importance of the question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m just going to say it:

Bananas are mid.

No, I don’t want them to go extinct, obviously.

Banana bread, however, is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d highly recommend trying to find an “actual banana” (might be a bit expensive) or trying an actual banana if you ever go to a tropical region.

The bananas in grocery stores are mid at best. Actual bananas are absurdly sweet, delicate, and delicious. You can get them by the kilo for pennies in many nations and there’s a reason they’re a large part of many peoples diets in tropical regions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought I saw somewhere that there was only one species of Banana left which are the mid ones available in grocery stores. I don’t know if there are any “actual bananas” available where I live but if I manage to travel outside of Canada one day I’ll definitely try out the tropical bananas

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are actually over 1000 different varieties of Bananas and Plantains in the world, that are actively farmed.

Cavendish is the most basic one (found in grocery stores) because the previous most dominant sort was heavily damaged by disease (but not rendered extinct like many think).

Even tropical Cavendish is delicious because the ones in stores are picked when they are unripe and not able to develop much sugar.

Here are just a few of the more common sorts of bananas in the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is a great reference, thank you! I don’t know where the hell I got the idea that only one type of banana existed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blue Java bananas are freaking amazing. They're actually blue, and taste like berry ice cream. I don't get why we don't grow more of them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree bananas are totally mid. I wouldn’t even like the real actual bananas that are sweet either because at that point it would be too sweet to have on its own and I’d need to buy something else to mix it with. Idk I’m pretty damn picky

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm from Honduras, yes there will be but you colonizers won't be Taking all of them anymore

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