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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Just try not to swallow the fly. I've heard if it gets inside you, the only way to get rid of it is to swallow a spider

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's just straight up not true. Fly paper works just as well as spiders.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then how do you handle the fly paper? You can swallow a bird to handle the spider. No problem. But I know of no solution for fly paper.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still chewing on that one...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why she swallowed the fly...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Perhaps she'll die

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Bro that cracked me up. Thanks so much

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That depends on what score the judges gives the fly.

Below 5, drink away, he was holding his team back.

5-7, still no big loss, but showing improvement, so if you can remove the fly, he might perform better next time.

8-9, his team will take a big hit if you drink him, you should immadiately rescue him.

10, it is your duty to not only save him, and for the next 17 days you are responsible for acting as his bodyguard

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol ... I was born and raised in northern Ontario. I'm indigenous and I've spent a lot of time in the northern wilderness which has lots and lots of swamp land and in the summer hosts billions of biting insects.

My parents were born in the bush so life out there was normal for us.

I remember spending summers out camping in July with clouds of black flies, mosquitoes, deer flies, midges and sand flies.... when we drank a cup of tea by the fire, you first had to skim off the drowning insects before taking a sip.

I think one fly in your wine is OK

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just asking questions, just asking questions ;) Horseflies were the worst! I feel like I lost a part of me when they'd bite

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is why when you meet many old timer Indigenous person in northern Ontario, they're dressed in long pants and long sleeved clothing in the summer. The only time I wear tshirts or shorts is if there is a strong wind or I'm planning on jumping in the water some time soon. In the evening and especially at night, I'll cover up every inch of exposed skin.

It always amazes me when I have my southern friends visit me, sit around a fire at dusk in tank tops and shorts and complain about the bugs ... then slather on tons of insect repellent and complain about the chemicals they put on.

... all while I skim off the bugs from my drink and take a sip.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

slather themsves

I've heard a dryer sheet works for this purpose, can u confirm + deny?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Lots of things work ... including dryer sheets ... but the problem is that you have to apply whatever product or diy trick or whatever you are using on every bit of your skin ... every piece of skin. If you have one spot the size of a penny of untreated skin anywhere on your body, the insects will find it and sting you there. The best way to do all this is to find a vat of insect repellent, swim in it for 10 seconds and come out. And even then, it only works for about half an hour or hour because your skin is constantly changing ... all that has to happen is you sweat a little bit, the repellent washes off and now you have an untreated section that the bugs will find.

It's a never ending battle and the bugs always win. Part of surviving in these conditions is to accept that you will get bitten ... you just minimize the bites and you learn to live with getting bitten.

There is research I've read that more and more people are becoming so accustomed to never wanting to be bitten that they spend their lives in a bubble away from biting insects that it becomes a severe problem when they do get bitten .... even to the point where they develop allergic reactions because they do such a good job avoiding it all.

I grew up in these conditions and I remember being a dumb kid running around the bush and being covered in welts all summer long and never thinking it was unusual.

As a teen, I remember a few summers with my friends where the mosquitos grew so thick and noisy at dusk that you could literally choke on them as they filled your nose and mouth.

Now as an adult, I minimize the number of bites but when I do get bitten (which is still fairly high) I don't really mind it all that much. You build a tolerance to them over time. Like anything uncomfortable and unavoidable in the world you learn to live with them.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I reject the future of protein ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'd probably cook a calf in the milk of its mother too, wouldn't you? Cheese greater ΰ² _ΰ² 

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s safe and it’s ok to do so. Whether it’s socially acceptable depends on whether you sing the β€œShoo Fly! Don’t bother me!” song as a fun little kid’s song or if you do the whole 1860’s minstrel show version.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

[I'm not available for comment on account of my ~~small~~ death]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Thanks for letting us know you got laid

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably fine... you might want to skip it if the fruit flies all died shortly after drinking it though.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

For what it's worth, here's a study.

Do fruit flies carry any diseases? Fruit flies do not carry infectious agents on the inside of their bodies. They are not disease vectors. However, they can carry bacteria on the outside of their bodies and transmit them by contact with fruits or vegetables, which can cause disease when consumed.

Is it safe to eat food that has been touched by fruit flies? No, it is not safe. If food was touched by fruit flies, there may be bacteria that cause disease. The appropriate strategy is to remove the damaged area of the food or to dispose of it.

Can fruit flies be harmful to humans? Fruit flies are not harmful to humans. They do not bite or sting. They also don't have venom. However, when fruit flies wound ripe fruit or vegetables to lay eggs, bacteria can enter the food, and when humans consume it, they can get a disease.

What happens if you eat a fruit fly? There is no scientific evidence of diseases caused by eating a fruit fly. Also, there is no scientific evidence that eating the fruit fly's eggs can cause disease.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So this just told me that eating fruit flies will give you a disease, followed by a statement that there's no evidence that eating fruit flies will give you a disease

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

studying with ChatGPT be like

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think it's saying that you can eat the fruit fly, but not food the fruit fly has touched.

It's always worth remembering, though, that bacteria live on some foods more easily than others. I'd be surprised if most bacteria could live long in wine.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Just wash your flies before consumption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's the trouble with researching and reading around questions like these because you'll get a lot answers like this one that seem more sensible than others and even provide some pretty plausible sounding reasoning behind their conclusions but then proceed to either directly contradict themselves, or simply leave an obvious implicit contradiction unaddressed.

The issue I think is, if we take what's said as true (no telling if it is, but again, sounds pretty reasonabland plausible) it can't tell you much about the real likelihood that it will actually cause you real problems in real life. It seems entirely reasonable to believe that fruit flies may carry bacteria on the surface of their bodies and that that bacteria could be harmful and so reasonable for the author to include and thus not be giving dangerous advice just saying everything is safe don't worry about it. But it's also kind of useless what are the odds the particular bacteria is going to be harmful vs something your body can easily dispatch? How much bacteria would you need to ingest for it to be dangerous? Is there enough of it on one fruitfly to be problematic? If so, what about the surfaces of different foods? What about liquids? Including wine? What are the relative odds of all of these factors aligning just right to make you sick?

If you replace fruitfly in that text with just fly, I expect that would likely also be true. If you asked people can you eat cake that's had a fly on it you'll get a gamut of responses from people saying of course it's fine they do it all the time to people saying it'll definitely make you sick to a more nuanced response like this one, but I bring up the case of flies in particular because the fact is the odds are very good that you eat food a fly has been on all the time because they land on it and then fly away without any noticing. Sometimes people eat the food and get sick and the mechanism for how that happened might be exactly as described, but then again most of the time you eat a slice of cake from a display case and you're fine despite it likely having had many visitors on its surface during its time there.

Despite its seemingly contradictory way in which it's written, I think this is probably consistent, it provides a mechanism how a fruit fly could make you sick then goes on to say there's no evidence that fruit flies do make you sick, which is not surprising because attributing a case where someone got sick from ingesting bacteria to a fruit fly is going to be pretty difficult when there's so many mechanisms by which that could happen to you.

Frankly without providing some additional context to nail down how likely the proposed mechanism is to actually cause disease and in what specific circumstances that type of information is truthful yet misleading. Honestly, I'd drink it, but I can't honestly say I have any solid evidence that's definitely safe, only that it just seems so unlikely that it could represent a serious threat, whilst being capable of happening so easily yet not seeming to represent a major public health concern. It seems like if it really was that dangerous, human cohabitation in areas with any appreciable fruit fly population would be untenable.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Takes a lot more than that to keep me from my wine.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends, if you drink my glass of wine with my fruit fly in it we have issues.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the fruit fly lived then the wine is safe to drink. If not, the wine may be poisoned.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As long as it didn't drink the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

His eyes were bigger than his thorax

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh sure! After all, wine not?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Sour grapes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what "his" last five secs were like

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

He probably screamed "witness me" to a shrine of Bacchus before diving in and died enthused with a divine spirit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends if your vegan or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Only if you get the fly to spit out what it drank. Can't let it get away with it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Right, unacceptable! Wine is not crumbz, harumph 😀

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Financially; yes

Morally; also yes

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd chase it with a shot of vodka to disinfect your system for a good measure

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As long as you aren't vegan

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lol, this post's never gonna end ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. It just means you got a drinking buddy!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends, is there a garbage dump nearby?

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