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If anything, cannabis seems like a much better (and more profitable) drug around which to build a leisurely establishment.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As others have said, they exist mostly as coffee shops. Honestly, with the prevalence and near ubiquity of Delta 8 across USA now, I would have thought someone would have put the effort into making coffee shops. I have no idea why they haven't gotten around to it yet. I found one that was a coffee shop that had delta 8 for sale, but not as a single product and they wouldn't let me eat it in store...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In Virginia, I have one of those in my town

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Should visit Amsterdam. They likely already have this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've got this in Amsterdam but I would say it's less accessible than bars/alcohol generally due to how polluted the air gets (despite the best efforts of filtration)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Im every large city in the Netherlands btw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm tired of these people that are so scared of cannabis and it's effects, like they are straight out of reefer madness. You know what's significantly more harmful and in practically everything you consume these days? Sugar. Caffeine is a close second.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a place like that in my city in Florida.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are some board game cafes in the states. And some of those overlap with legal weed :) but smoking indoors in public is still a no-go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For the ones complaining of smell, Ill take the weed perfume over vomit dipped alcoholics any day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as you don't stink. So fucking sick of weed users smelling like ass in public.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm sick of alcohol users smelling like ass. If you don't drink then the smell of alcohol on someone's breath is absolutely nauseating.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't care about cannabis consumption in public but anything that produces smoke or vapor should be treated the same way as cigarettes. Second hand smoke exposure needs to be minimized.

I am also not sure they would be more profitable. Alcohol is dirt cheap to produce and bars charge insane amounts for it. A $10 bottle in the supermarket frequently goes for hundreds of dollars. A cannabis lounge might be more profitable right now because there is very little supply but I doubt you can have anywhere near the amount of bars or clubs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are more pot shops than bars where I live. Plants are pretty cheap to grow.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There have been a few private clubs in Colorado that allow this. It tends to be bring-your-own but you can smoke and do whatever once inside after buying a membership. Apparently they’re opening more official places called consumption lounges - one is opening on Colfax in Denver soon, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hadn't heard about that, looks like they're just waiting to get the ventilation/HVAC approved. Might have to a check Cirrus out when they open.
Apparently the "Coffee Joint" was able to open and allow dabbing and electronic vaping inside without needing to meet the same HVAC requirements.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it wouldn't. I'm sick and tired of the childish argument that if we accept alcohol then we have to accept or introduce other substance abuses because some find it more appealing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why shouldn't we accept it? Its already poven to be better for you than alcohol, many people enjoy it, and a lot less deaths per year will be caused by wee than alcohol. Should people who don't want to drink not be allowed to have a place they can hang out similar to a bar?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here we go again. People who don't want to drink alcohol can hang anywhere and still don't drink acohol. The unwillingness to drink alcohol or that "many people like it" are not actual arguments to introduce and use other health damaging substances rerdless of their nature and effects.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want constancy. Weed is less dangerous than alcohol. Ban both, legalize both, legalize weed but not alcohol, or keep things the way they are and drop the premise that it has anything to do with health and safety.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That "less dangerous" is so subjective and unfounded that I'm not going to address.

On the other hand do you think it's a good idea to think in extremes? Alcohol is rooted in our culture since literally thousands of years to get it out is almost impossible now but we can struggle for moderation. Weed as we find it on the market didn't even exist 100 years ago. So maybe it's a good idea to introduce it get it common as alcohol so in 50 years we will have the problems with alcohol and with weed on top. Smart.

Then we can go further to other drugs because we cant leave them outside. We have to be consistent and some people really like it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Complains about how dangerous introducing something is. Then says it is subjective and won't address it.

It's like the Santa Claus problem. Telling kids that Santa Claus is real and watching, then went they get older telling them it was all a lie. Surprise Pikachu face when they all turn atheist. Tell kids that weed is bad for their health. When they get older, watch as half the country legalise medical marajana. Surprise Pikachu when the kids all start trying meth "cause adults lied about one drug, what about the others?"

Consistency isn't just to make certain people feel better. Consistency prevents people from going down dangerous paths.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, actually reading a post and just glancing over it are two different things and I can asure you that only the first can help you understand what other person is saying.

Introducing a drug (for which we don't have yet the full table of clinical affections but the data that we have clearly shows it has negative long term effects) to unrestricted consumption and social acceptable norms is not ok especially in the context of how bad alcohol consumption is and how much damage is doing to consumers. But you actually don't care about alcohol consumption, it's just an argument you got flying around from the internet forums and subscribes ro whataboutism.

What I won't address is the comparison "less dangerous than" which is vague and unfounded. I can tell you why but I doubt that you care.

Telling people that weed it's bad for their health is the truth, especially to kids and that won't change when they grow older. But maybe you don't care because you're young and consuming and nothing bad happened to you.

Medical consumption and for leisure in a bar/coffee house consumption are 2 very different things. A medical drug is not something that is all good for you, it's something that consumed gives you more benefits than problems in the context of a health affection. Something recreational is something you consume just for fun. So the element of necessity (the health affection) is missing thus the trade-off between beneficial and detrimental is non existing. You actually have to be consistent in your arguments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How meta. My only argument is that policy should be consistent, less people stop trusting the authority that is issuing the policy; and you complain that my argument is inconsistent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well if that is what you want then your inconsistent with what you ask for.

You see for the last years the consumption of alcohol, tobbaco, sugar, fat, etc. have been publicly "exposed" and criticised in campaigns, programs to discourage consumption have been publicly funded, restrictions regarding comercials, comercialisation and consumption have been gradually put in place and so on.

So actually the legalisation of weed consumption in various degrees is inconsistent with all the public health policies in place right now which tend to be more and more restrictive with unhealthy substances consumption. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how is my argument that we should regulate public consumption of addictive substances consistently contradictory to what you are arguing?

All I know is that I lost a good friend to alcohol induced liver failure, while I have a 3 year old cousin that takes marajana to prevent seizures. Both have the ability to be abused, both have medical applications, but only one is illegal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meth and heroin should have consumption venues and dedicated bars also?

You have to make up your mind, what are you speaking about: medical use, recreational use or what?

The consumption of weed per se because you like it or the consumption of derivate medical compounds (like CBD based treatments for child seizures)?

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