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[EDITOR'S NOTE] Canadian news is starting to vanish from Instagram. Google is next. Here's how to find CBC as that happens (www.cbc.ca)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a good reminder of just how much CBC puts out there. I am a little surprised not to see a mention of using alternative search engines like DDG or Bing, as to my knowledge those aren't blocking Canadian news corps. (Please correct me if you know differently!) I guess if the goal is to raise awareness of the content you can get without an intermediary, it makes sense.

I'm very interested to see which parties cave first in this standoff. If nothing else, I'm impressed the Canadian government had the balls to mandate this of American companies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Canadian government seems to be following Australia's lead. Australia was able to make deals with Google and Meta, so Canada is probably looking for the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, key word here is "make deals," which is what Australia ended up doing. They didn't just dictate terms like Canada seems to want to. The entire point of these companies banning news is to remind our government that no, you can't just dictate your terms, you actually have to negotiate. Maybe they will, we'll have to wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one thing that makes government different than any other organization is yes they CAN just dictate the terms. That's their whole deal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not against foreign owned companies they cannot. As much as they would love to force these companies to both carry and pay for news, those companies can choose not to carry the news and thus not pay for it. Canada can not force them to do so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd really like to see a CBC official Mastodon instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just make a bot that reposts CBC rss feeds. I guess you might need to filter ads if they put those in-between stories, some rss feeds do.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is one really on the internet if they're trapped inside a tech bro walled garden. The situation seems quite terrible now that people have to be told how to go to a URL as simple as cbc.ca. It's not like the internet was recently invented. This is a developed nation and one of the earlier to widely adopt internet usage. Here we are teaching people how to browse to a website. What a mess that big tech has made.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

At some level I can't really blame the tech companies for making it convenient to browse through their sites, but rather how they have used it to track and influence people. At some point everyone using the internet should have learned how to find websites they find it worthwhile to visit and use their critical thinking to identify whether a site is trash. That skill hasn't changed in decades.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wait till you tell them about rss feeds

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

The poor, benighted soul who heard you shouldn't get news from Facebook, and thought to themselves, "No problem, I'll just use Instagram!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My 83 year old Dad uses Facebook, but only for family stuff. If he wants news, he goes to CBC.ca or sometimes CTV. He still gets his local paper too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CBC News has a pretty good app.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not need yet another app to show me web content.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Good news! The website is also fully functional.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every media organization and news outlet also has a website that people can directly connect to

With a bit of setting up, you can also use a feed aggregator in a variety of ways or services to just collect headlines to news stories and read all their headlines as they appear every day to read the news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

With a bit of setting up

This is the problem. The path of least resistance funnels people into garbage news and conspiracy theories .

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way. Been using RSS feeds since 2005. Haven't had a piece of news delivered to me via Reddit, Facebook, Twitter or any other social media without it being in my feeds within 5 minutes. Never need to go anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shows why Canadian news companies should be getting into the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The whole point of the bill that caused this is that they want money. They won't get money out of the fediverse. It was never about exposure.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genuine question, not trying to be a snob about it…

Who actually uses Facebook and Instagram and stuff for news? It’s such a foreign idea to me that I’m interested in how many people actually get their news from these sites (as opposed to coming across it and interacting with it just because it’s there).

Are there actually people who will consume less news because of this? Is it specific demographics?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At one point I was following a few local news accounts on instagram because I'd scroll past some content while I was already looking through the feed. It wasn't my only way of getting news, but just another form of it.

Facebook dropping news probably won't affect me much, but I can see Google being more impactful. I know some people use the news feed as their primary way of finding news, and I also click on news articles when they come up on the search. Depending on the extent of the removal, it might replace a lot of reputable news with content that isn't "news" but still fills that niche.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I guess that’s the alarming part - if people don’t change their habits and read ads as news.

Thanks for the explanation!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think the people most worried about there being no "news" on FB or IG, etc. are the FB and IG addicts inside the news media itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have never gotten my news from social media. I get my news from news media and news papers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The CBC app is already so good, though...

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