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  1. Retired sheriff who still wears his Sheriff embroidered knit cap all winter everywhere he goes;

  2. a former Sheriff who was fired, still has his knit cap and wears it around everywhere he goes;

  3. someone who was never a sheriff and never in law enforcement in any capacity whatsoever who found a sheriff knit cap and wears it around everywhere he goes

Which of those three scenarios might qualify as "Impersonating a Police Officer?" Any or all of the above?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t this boil down to “does wearing a knit cap with sheriff on it constitute impersonation of an officer”?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yes but I worded it the way I did because there is a person I have encountered who wears a sheriff's knit cap and I was in a period of uncertainty whether he was retired or fired or just a poseur. I have decided he's a poseur. Super creepy man kinda impersonating law enforcement on top of at least three other creepy things he's doing and I've only had 3 brief encounters with him.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

I don't think a knit cap is part of the official police uniform, so none of them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

None of the above.

  1. A person who attempts to deceive others into believing that they are a police officer.

If you want to walk around wearing an Sheriff hat because you like detective movies you're perfectly fine to do that. But if you're not actually in the Sheriff's Dept. don't go around dressed up as them banging on doors yelling "Sheriff open up!" And if people ask you if you're law enforcement tell the truth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In none of your scenarios would a reasonable person believe their interacting with an active member of the sheriff department.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

okay but I'll go a little deeper into this scenario. This happened to me yesterday, there's this creepy old man who loiters outside the 24-hour gym all hours of the night lurking in the shadows outside and then he comes in and talks to me while I'm running on the treadmill and he makes a display of making sure I notice he has this hat on with an official sheriff's logo of some County with the word sheriff on it and he peels the cap off his head as he's talking to me. seems like impersonation to me. Because subconsciously I really thought he was law enforcement but in retrospect no he's not law enforcement. He's a creepy old man.

he gives me the creeps and he bothers me while I'm working out at the gym. And he tells me about the vehicle I drive and my license plate, I just want to exercise in peace and not be harassed by creepy old men impersonating a police officer in the middle of the night.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Well yes that's harrassment. I'm sure the police can tell you better than anyone here if wearing the hat or not makes it any worse, but by all means having some creep come at you talking about your number plate is off

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Seems legit.

Better call the CIA.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You're under no obligation to talk to them. You can just say I'm declining this interview, any further statements please arrange with my lawyer. Treat him like the police officer he wants to be treated like. Don't say anything to him. Just like you should do of any police officer.

Or say something more polite, I volunteer with legal aid, they would get mad at me if I ever voluntarily spoke with the police. So I can't talk to you sorry, have a good workout!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just ask if they are law enforcement. If they say no or say nothing, then assume they are just some creepy citizen and stay away. If they say yes but can't produce a badge, they have instantly committed impersonation.

Law enforcement has to identify itself in an official capacity if you are being detained or questioned. This should be obvious. Policing powers are only given to police officers, so it behooves the police to be very clear that they are the police.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should record the next time he bothers you... that way you have some evidence to show the police. Good luck and be safe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Thank you. I've just started avoiding that gym at all the hours I've ever seen him there. Makes me sick that I inconvenience myself now to avoid his schedule. I'd rather do as you suggest. I will keep that in mind.