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[–] 182 points 3 years ago (7 children)

the argument for .ml domain has always been absurd to begin with. So it's free but the price you pay is that it's being run by Mali. I'd just drop 8$/year tbh, that's not a hill you want to die for. Also you harm your project by being SEO punished for using spam-associated TLDs like this. One of the reasons original Lemmy took so long to adopt until Reddit's API drama. Pretty dumb ngl.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    If i remember right it was also "free to register but insanely expensive to renew once they start to see traffic"

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  • [–] 142 points 3 years ago (20 children)

    This brings a disturbing thought to mind.. if an instance domain name like foo.bar lapses and someone else snaps the domain up (or of it gets stolen) can the new controller plop Lemmy on a server and be instantly federated? If so what kind of damage could they do?

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  • [–] 63 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    This is why you don't let your domain registration lapse. It's not the only way computers on the internet verify each other's identity, but a hell of a lot of internet security features are based around domain names, so keeping yours functioning is a very big deal.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    ICANN has an Expired Registration Recovery Policy (ERRP) that requires your registrar to give your domain a 30-day grace period before deleting the records. ERRP also requires them to shutdown your DNS resolutions 8 days before deletion.

    You’d have to be really mismanaging your domain if you miss all the required email reminders and don’t notice your domain has been non functional for a couple of days.

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  • [–] 104 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Using .ml was stupid in the first place. No need to try to be a special snowflake by using a sketchy TLD.

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    [–] 104 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (66 children)

    Out of curiosity, other than fmhy.ml, lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad.ml, what other Lemmy instances were using .ml domains? Also, how are the latter two still running but fmhy.ml isn't?

    edit: This has triggered a chain of comments I wasn't expecting. I'd appreciate it if someone can answer on a technical level. Is the latter two using a different registrar or name server which is why it still works for them?

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  • [–] 84 points 3 years ago (55 children)

    Why are so many instances using .ml anyway?

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  • [–] 149 points 3 years ago (36 children)

    AFAIK, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml use it because the ml can also stand for "Marxist-Leninist", and the two primary maintainers of Lemmy are Marxist-Leninists . Not sure about the others though.

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    [–] 97 points 3 years ago (49 children)

    Man, hacking, DDOS and now this. The fediverse just can't catch a break...

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  • [–] 77 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Resiliency is the strongpoint.

    If Reddit shuts down, all of Reddit dies.

    Same with Facebook, YouTube, etc. is that highly unlikely? Well, yeah, but still nonzero. The fediverse offers resiliency in this regard, and no one person has the ability to shut it down. Even if all instances decide to shut down, new instances can still be spun up.

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    [–] 84 points 3 years ago* (41 children)

    Hi, professional DNS engineer here! if anyone has any questions about the inner workings of DNS or top level domains, ask away! (THIS IS MY MOMENT)

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    [–] 73 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are gone? So sad.

    Anyway.

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    [–] 70 points 3 years ago (33 children)

    Link to the actual post OP screenshotted: https://very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za

    Screenshots of text are not the way. The crappy “hey, a text thing I want to share, let me take an accessibility-poisoning screenshot and upload that graphic file like a psychopath instead of just copy/pasting either the link to the text or the text itself like a decent human being” routine needs to die with Reddit, we have to be better than that here.

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    [–] 70 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    It's called a single-point of failure in Engineering.

    Funny enough it wasn't even a technical one but a contractual one.

    Maybe there is some kind of lesson here on the risk of delegating critical structural elements to 3rd parties that rent rather than own that which they're selling ...

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    [–] 58 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Visited lemmy.ml : it is on.
    When was it down ?

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    [–] 55 points 3 years ago

    It was quite hard to find any information on this, so I will post what I found.

    https://domainincite.com/tag/freenom

    https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/05/26/2121222/phishing-domains-tanked-after-meta-sued-freenom

    That second link is less relevant but interesting.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Why is Meta suing Freenom?

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    [–] 43 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Why is Meta suing Freenom?

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    A lot of people should be concerned about this for .me domains as well (Montenegro)

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    [–] 39 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I was using .ml domains for my selfhosted services, since it was just an hobby and I didn't wanted to invest money on it. Apart from Freenom website being pretty unusable since I have memory, I've already had troubles renewing them last year and now they stopped working without any notice nor update from Freenom itself. Finally I decided to move to a payed domain from Infomaniak, since it's been more than a year I've been selfhosting and $10/year is a fair price for me.

    But still without those free domains I wouldn't probably ever started selfhosting, and I guess a lot of other people like me wouldn't have experimented or spin up their projects if they had to pay for a domain from the beginning. So despite my hate for Freenom I guess I have to thank them and hope someone else (maybe a bit more "professional") will take its place in the future

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Why was .ml selected to begin with?

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    FYI I have made a tool that can backup / copy your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks to a new account: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

    There are others out there as well if you look.

    Obviously the loss of .ml communities would still be catastrophic to Lemmy, but at least your new account won't start from ground-zero, and you can be less effected by downtime by having 2 accounts with the same subscriptions.

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    [–] [S] 33 points 3 years ago (1 child)
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