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I have seen that the lemmy.ml mods will openly ban discussion about the CCP. I am wondering if the sh.itjust.works team allows criticism of government bodies, while still banning racism.

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[-] TheDude@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Any government or governing body should be open to criticism. They are suppose to be working for the people they serve. How is anyone going to know better if no one tells them what they are doing wrong? @wriggly3171@sh.itjust.works you have my support

[-] lemme@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

👆my dude this is yet another reason why I like it here

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

The dude abides.

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Right on! So I have a question, if I posted something that got me banned from lemmy.ml (such as an article criticizing the CCP for example) I would just not have access to the communities on that instance right? Like it won't affect my experience in other instances right?

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 150 points 2 years ago

Let's find out: The CCP is committing genocide against the Uighur people

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago

Mao Zedong was a little piss baby who hid in the mountains while the KMT fought the Japanese.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago

If I get banned, it wasn't worth being here in the first place.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago
[-] theFinestFellow@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

totally agree, the ccp are evil

[-] lemmywinks@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Adding the people of occupied Tibet to this.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

*Occupied Tibet

[-] peotr26@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago
[-] ljubashin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also lemmygrad is blocked here. As a person born in eastern block, fuck communism and tankies.

[-] passport@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

just came over here after poking around some of the other instances and the quality increase from not having tankies brigading shit is truly amazing

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[-] Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago
[-] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago

I hope so, although it's not something I personally care too much about.

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[-] root@lemmy.belclayfer.net 15 points 2 years ago

Ooof the admins are weighing in on that linked thread at lemmy.ml and it's not a good look if you are in favor of human rights

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Which admins? Lemmy.ml ones?

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[-] parsifal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

Kowtowing to the shitty chinese government is cowardice.

[-] Raveena@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

Why would they delete discussion like that? Are they waiting to IPO their Lemmy instance?

[-] lee@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Yo, fuck the CCP!!!!!!! If sh.itjust.works doesn't like it I'm out

[-] theFinestFellow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

#fucktheccp

[-] jnj@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Lemmy project openly describes itself in its public documentation as anti-US, and was apparently founded around the idea that Reddit is fundamentally anti-China and pro-US: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html

The doc starts off talking about open source, but it quickly becomes clear that the Lemmy project is primarily political in nature.

To me this is concerning -- what happens when largely pro-US Reddit refugees swarm a community (community in the general sense, not the Lemmy sense) which was intended by the founders to combat those peoples views? Sure, instances and people can choose to ignore the lemmy.ml instance, but the founders control the project at a much deeper level than that.

Personally I hope that alternative implementations that are compatible with Lemmy arise, totally outside of the influence of the original founders. Yes there is kbin, but I actually prefer the Lemmy model (from what I've seen so far), and I think there would only be benefits of having another high quality implementation which is totally separate yet totally compatible with the original Lemmy. It would make the whole thing more resilient, and could be fertile ground for future improvements to flourish.

[-] b_n@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Is that post really anti us and pro china though? To me it looks like anti pro us, and anti anti china.

Also, how do you see the founders controlling the project more? Especially at the "much deeper level"?

I'm a New Zealander living in The Netherlands, whether you choose to believe that or not.

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[-] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

The great thing about Lemmy is that it's all decentralized. Lemmy.ml mods and admins can't do anything about other instances

[-] Tree6024@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Technically correct, much like you can't do anything about what your neighbour does in their own home.

However, what sh.itjust.works and lemmy.ml can do is block 'bad server' communication.

They can also enforce rules on their own 'home' as it were.

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[-] sharp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's some talk about "a rise in anti-China posts that have hit Reddit lately" in https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html, which struck me as odd.

Criticism of any governments should be allowed, especially authoritarian ones.

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[-] basket@burggit.moe 4 points 2 years ago
[-] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

You joined Lemmy 5 days ago...

Yeah, I guess a mass platform migration does mean bringing a lot of the culture, for better and worse.

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[-] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I mean they are commiting a genocide so that's probably not great.

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