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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why do all the people who use concern for hamas as a reason to avoid a ceasefire never point out that netanyahu and likud are the reason hamas were funded and in power

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because it is absolutely devastating to their argument for wonton retaliation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wanton. Wonton retaliation sounds yummy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Wonton retaliation sounds yummy

Dunno, it sounds like Chinese cuisine's equivalent to the post-Curry Bonanza/ring of fire.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The US does have its long track record of doing the wrong thing to uphold.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why the fuck should somewhere as unstable as the US be allowed to veto EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the UN?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Because nukes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Calling the US unstable is a massive stretch. You might not like what the politics of the US are (or will be after the next election) but the world's largest economy can hardly be called unstable. Lord knows I wish they would do things differently (universal health care, banning guns, a rapid shift away from their politics of intolerance) but that's for them to work out.

And I think you know the real reason why they (and we) have the veto. Hint: it rhymes with bunny.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

The UK's actual reason. Sunak - Infosys - BP - Gaza Marine Gas Field - £££

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jesus USA get your shit together

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Dozens of other nations had also expressed support for an urgent cessation of hostilities, leaving Washington diplomatically isolated on the international stage.

Article 99 allows Antonio Guterres to raise threats that he sees to international peace and security, and he warned of a "humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza".

America's veto prompted criticism, with the UAE's deputy ambassador asking: "What is the message we are sending to Palestinians if we cannot unite behind a call to halt the relentless bombardment of Gaza?"

Barbara Woodward, the UK's permanent representative to the UN, made similar remarks - adding: "Calling for a ceasefire ignores the fact that Hamas has committed acts of terror and is still holding civilians hostage."

She said the UK is "gravely concerned" about the situation in Gaza and warned the scale of civilian deaths cannot continue - but said "further and longer" humanitarian pauses are the solution so Israel can defend itself.

It is unjustifiable that Security Council members would veto a resolution calling for a halt to fighting when the humanitarian case for a ceasefire is so clear."


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