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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why are millennials killing genocide?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody wants to 'cide anymore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

People are just so pc nowadays

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Has the woke agenda gone too far?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Because of avocado toast

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which centrists actually support any amount of genocide?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of centrist liberals support Israel's "war against Hamas". US president Joe Biden and the Democratic party for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

that has nothing to do with the ideology of centrism itself and would be ridiculous to even pretend so.

it has to do with the complexity of the situation, and more specifically for everyone supporting Israel, having to do with maintaining country relations moreso than the edit: humanist ideals unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Centrists - making the world a friendlier place for fascism since forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Centrist is picking and choosing from each side, not doing a little of everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

the dogshit stupid takes i see in this community are just proving that nobody here has actually ever encountered a centrist

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm also picking and choosing from each side, which is why I'm a leftist. Does that make me a centrist?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If it’s not from the Genocide region of France then it’s only sparkling mass murder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You people make up such fantasies in your head. This is far from the common trail of thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Echo chambers and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Bro/Sis this is what is happening in the debate about refugees in Germany right now so no, actually you are wrong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well, back when Steinmeier was our foreign minister and toured poor countries to advertise Germany as the land of opportunity and wealth because corporations wanted slaves they don't have to pay properly, I was called a Nazi by many for saying that they won't find any opportunity or wealth in Germany. Our government never had the well-being of immigrants in mind, they just stuffed them into dilapidated "refugee camps", told them their education is insufficient and left them to rot. I am not surprised.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any relevant links? I tried to google it, but it seems to me that the debate is about funding them - not about killing them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I can't speak to Germany, but in the UK the government had to be forced to use the lifeguard to save drowning people because they wanted to let refugees die, and had to be forced to stop sending people to Rwanda (even if they're not from Rwanda) just to get rid of them.

Both stories are easily googlable.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's not what centrism means. It's not an immediate compromise between the two. It's acknowledging that not every single stance held by a political party is the correct one.

I can support background checks and other limitations on firearm purchases, and also not want open borders. We should be doing something about the excess of gun violence, and we should be doing something about the thousands of immigrants jumping our border.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of leftists that are very comfortable with genocide.

r/tankiejerk

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't see tankies/red-browns are leftists. Ultimately they overwhelmingly support authoritarian dictatorships, and that just doesn't feel very lefty for me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well left/right isn't authoritarian/libertarian, it's collectivist economics/individualist economics.

Authoritarians with collectivist ideals are authoritarian leftists, i.e tankies,

Libertarians with collectivist ideals are libertarian leftists i.e anarchocommunists,

Authoritarians with individualist ideals are authoritarian right, i.e monarchism,

Libertarians with individualist ideals are libertarian right, i.e anarchocapitalism.

Of course there are more examples of ideologies for each quadrant with varying levels of "auth-lib" or "left-right," but just to give you some idea of the differences. There's also auth-lib centers, like National Socialists on the auth side and agorists or anarchoprimativists on the lib side.

Of course judge all of the above groups to your own accord, but it isn't as simple as "left means libertarian" unless you think anarchocapitalism is a leftist ideal, which it by definition isn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Left = Egalitarian flat power structure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

Right = Hierarchical power structure https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics

The collectivist/individualist framework you describe is propaganda to appeal to supporters.

Authoritarianism is the sole perview of the right. What makes it confusing is that right wing people claim to support leftist ideals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well shit I guess ancaps are leftists then, my mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Extremists be like "You're either with me or against me!"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm an extremist when the issue is "should we do a genocide".

On the "no" side, to be clear. I will indeed not accept any answer other than that one.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Muricans be like: let's make centrists look bad by using strawman arguments.

Also muricans: yeah only voting for shit or shit lite® definitively isn't a problem and voting 3rd party is throwing away my vote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right: These people who don't share my opinion need to be genocided!

Left: No! THESE people who don't share MY opinion need to be genocided!

Centre: Could... Could we, like... Not have a crisis on our hands FOR FIVE FUCKING SECONDS!?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting how everyone seems to think this tweet from 2018 seems to refer to th situation in Gaza in 2023.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

To be fair, the situation in Gaza isn't new and was probably the same in 2018

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where do we put the *cides from left dictatorships?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Name one. I think almost everyone here is operating on USA definitions of Right = Conservative and Left = Progressive, btw

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

i've never seen centrism so badly misunderstood.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right: Let's cut off our Dicks.

Left: Let's not cut off our Dicks.

Center: Guys, your going to have to compromise, let's just do some dick cutting.

Right: I guess I can live with that for now.

Left: No.

Center: See, this is why no one likes the left, you guys are the real extremists, smh

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you 'murican? I don't think the rest of the world agrees on any of the US's "definitions" of left, right and liberal. From a European POV, the US democrats are really, really far to the right. Sanders might be leaning toward the center. The republicans are a strange mixture of libertarian regarding economical matters and very very right-wing/intrusive on personal matters. Whenever someone even mentions/comments other people's sexual orientation and identity I automitcally assume they are creep that wants to sniff other people's bedsheets. How can you be partly libertarian and also creepily nazi-intrusive? US-republican invention I can't wrap my head around, that is.

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