goodbye proton vpn, hello airvpn

Ah, yes, once again the old adage "When they show you they are, believe them" has proved it never fails.

A happy Proton paying customer, I bailed within a week when Andy made his pro GOP/trump comments some time back.

Folks said I over reacted. I handed them that adage. It was right.

Protons top "loser" engineers will find themselves welcomed elsewhere. What a disaster Proton has become under Yen.

Proton is legit, they said.

Thanks for sharing! Good post, totally worth the read.

And I know which company to stay away from, and will solidly recommend this to others as well.

guess its time to host my own email

I mean, he ain't wrong.

Shareholders don't value stability.or the lobg term. They value short term profit. What happens to the company or products after is less than an afterthought.

Even though it dies with the person affected by it, cancer always wins by killing its host in the end. And clearly, in the CEO's eyes, so should Proton.

Andy Yen sounds like an asshole.

I still need to move away from Gmail, but it's probably not going to be to Proton.

Horrible stuff. I've been using Proton since 2020 and back then Proton's thing was just an encrypted email service. Year after year, they've started adding all these other apps and services to Proton's platform, and some of them fits nicely with the core email service (calendar, cloud for files, VPN). But lately they've began adding apps and services such as AI LLM chat (which is pretty crappy and inaccurate), remote video meeting software (which is really barebones feature wise) and apparently now they are working on Chromium based "privacy" browser (as if we don't have enough browsers already, let alone Chromium based). All of this requires a lot more developers and takes more time to develop and maintain, which is probably why Andy is so keen on making progress faster by using AI.

But why does Proton need to add all of these apps? To fight big tech in all fronts? To create same kind of ultra loyal, "will buy anything" fanboy culture around Proton products like Apple has (and to lesser extent Google has)? Or is it to grow bigger company much faster than originally intended (because the investors want that) all the while taking bigger financial risks in doing so?

In any case, Andy needs to step down as the CEO. The next CEO needs to take a good hard look at what's relevant to their customers. I don't think anyone is asking for a vibe-coded Proton web browser, just because it's "Proton".

For those of you that care enough, I suggest letting Proton know in their community voice platform/forum. You can also email thier foundation.

I'm OK with supporting fascists, Nazi's and Americans, but AI is where I draw the line

-Lemmy, probably.

WTF? Is he 12 years old?
Is this really true?

Ah shit balls! 3 months into a paid up email, calendar, drive and VPN suite. Have moved a lot of files over. Will start looking again, but definitely separating everything from now

I'd like to thank Andy for introducing me to Proton's competitor Tuta.

“Loser talk” is something a fucking 4chan basement dweller would say. I hate how society is just the stupidest fucks at the forefront now.

While I like AI, this fundamental rule is no different from a human coder: Do QA before letting it go live.

Stop giving Proton money

Every time this asshole speaks it just throws the entire company even further off a cliff lmao

Guess that's one way to throw your business case of being a secure and privacy focused service provider out of the window.

Maybe I'm a particularly sensitive, spiteful snowflake, but if the boss of my company accused me of being a "loser" because I cared about the quality of the product, I'd be looking to deliberately sabotage the product. And for a new job, of course.

Well...some people are linux distro hopping and me...email hopping...f*uck

RIP Proton.

Privacy minded people tend to also want security.

"Yen, a former CERN particle physicist"..so his career as a physicist bombed and he figured he would try IT?

Alright, that's enough for me. What's the best mail, calendar and drive alternatives? Preferably the ones that aren't slop-coded.

Also, has anyone had any experience with Migadu?