Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”

In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

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In Kürze, Andy Yen, einer der CEOs von Proton, leidet an KI Psychose, verlangt dass seine Ingenieure ungesicherten KI generierten Code zu deployen und auch, dass die Mitarbeitenden bzgl ihrer Stellung zu KI und KI Einsatz interviewt werden sollen.

Sehr empfehlenswert einmal durchzulesen und einmal zu bedenken, ob Proton wirklich noch eine gute Lösung ist um von BigTech los zu kommen.


Ich hab jedenfalls mein Abo gekündigt und suche nun nach Möglichkeiten meine eigene E-Mail Inbox zu hosten.


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Oh cool, Andy hat sich auf Lases geäußert... natürlich war es nur ein Fehler in der Kommunikation...

A lot of you probably don’t want to hear from me right now. But I spoke to the Proton team earlier today, and you also deserve to know what was said, because I’ve let you down, too.

First of all, I take responsibility for the failure of communications that has led to such uncertainty, confusion, and hurt within the staff. We’ll be bringing in an internal communications lead to help keep this from happening again.

More personally, I shouldn’t have said some of the things I did to the people who helped build this company. They were hurtful, I’m sorry, and I am determined to do better.

I want to address some points that have raised concerns.

First, the “re-interviews” that have been publicly discussed will not take place, and no one will lose their jobs because of them.

Second, Proton does not install tracking software on employees' laptops to measure how much AI-generated code they produce. This is false and stems from someone's misunderstanding about how MDM software works.

But most importantly, I need to categorically state that our use of AI will never be at the expense of security. In the past year, contrary to what has been alleged, actually additional layers of security review have been added to meet the threat posed by hostile AIs scanning Proton's open source code for vulnerabilities. Fast and secure need not be mutually exclusive. We also leverage AI to find vulnerabilities in our own code before attackers do. Our code is open source, and its security remains open for all to verify.

I recognize that the burden of proof about this is on us, and therefore, I'm recommitting to Proton's deeply held belief in transparency. We will lift the hood on how we use AI internally at Proton. This includes publicly releasing and open sourcing several of the internal tools that we use, including more advanced versions of Lumo with greater capabilities, which have never been made available outside of the company.

We will also publish how code reviews and security reviews at Proton are done, and detail our AI policies, including where AI is permitted, and where it is not, and our rationale. Instead of just being able to see the final open source code that we produce to verify security, third parties will also be able to assess how that code is produced.

Even if we might wish it wasn't, AI is here, and it will unquestionably change how software is developed forever, and Proton must also change. But we're committed to proving to you that we're doing it in a responsible and safe way.

The past few days have been humbling, to say the least. When you see your words reflected back at you, all at once, you can’t help but see yourself in a different light. I’ve made mistakes, but I will learn from them.

The coming days, weeks, months, and years will be difficult, not just for us, but for all the people who will be impacted by the changes brought on by AI and automation. Proton will not go the distance with an army of agents, but with an army of smart, thoughtful people, who care deeply about our mission, our users, and this community.


Even if we might wish it wasn't, AI is here, and it will unquestionably change how software is developed forever, and Proton must also change. But we're committed to proving to you that we're doing it in a responsible and safe way.

hier zeigt er, dass er sein Vorgehen nicht bedauert und weiterhin an seine KI Psychose glaubt.

 

A case study in CEO AI psychosis.

Some choice quotes:

In a Slack channel dedicated to thanking people for their work, Yen jumped in. “Get it fixed,” he wrote, referring to Proton’s Reddit post announcing the feature. “Now Reddit is pissed and we look worse than Tuta,” he added, referring to a Proton competitor. When employees explained to Yen the nuances of the encryption and why that was not immediately possible, Yen wrote, “I find this whole thing stupid. You cannot announce this in this way.”

another employee pushed Yen for specifics on ensuring that AI-generated code was free of security issues. “AI won’t magically solve our problems, because security is low in our prioritization at present,” the engineer said. Yen didn’t respond directly, and went on to insult one of the other employees in front of the entire channel. The employee “is saying his usual bs of we can do it but we will be even slower than we are today and I’m saying only losers think like that,” Yen wrote, adding that workers should prompt “better.”

Initially, using AI was banned inside Proton, but the company has since approved AI for all sorts of use cases internally, including processing financial data, drafting customer-facing responses on Reddit and LinkedIn, and writing code […] Ninety percent of code at Proton in October was written by AI, the company’s CTO Bart Butler said in a meeting, according to audio 404 Media obtained. Much of that code is written with Anthropic’s Claude, multiple employees told 404 Media. And Yen tells employees in Slack chats to use Claude, too.

 

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Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”

In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

 

Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”

In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

 

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