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The US government may be done with Covid, but recent data shows an alarming number of Americans are still dying from the respiratory disease

Nearly four years into the pandemic, hundreds of Americans are still dying every day from Covid, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The virus is responsible for around 1,000 deaths and 15,000 hospitalisations each week, CDC Director Mandy Cohen said during a media briefing on 2 December.

Death rates briefly dipped below 500 per week in July, the lowest rates since the pandemic began, before steadily increasing to as high as 1,400 in September.

The latest CDC data shows emergency doctor visits and hospitalisations spiked by 10 per cent over one week in mid-November, the first major increase in the virus’s spread for several months.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Get your updated boosters folks.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t go into a building that was not my home for the first two years.

I haven’t stopped masking since the beginning in March 2020. And I am on my fifth booster.

And I have managed to avoid getting covid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Have you been doing regular antibody tests? Its possible you have had asymptomatic COVID at some point in the past.

Regardless, I'm very happy you've been spare the experience of the symptoms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I suppose I left out part of the story.

I am immune-compromised. I have a suppressed immune system, a weak immune system.

If I got covid, it would be bad. Very bad. I would know. As my doctor said - it isn’t easier for me to catch things, but if I do catch them it is much worse.

I have not taken any tests. But then, I haven’t had a fever in three years either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vaccines make you antibody positive. That's kinda the point lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

All of the vaccines so far target the spike protein, so looking for spike antibodies won't tell you anything. If you test for nucleocapsid antibodies, however, and those show up, then you've definitely been infected. Even testing for N is not definitive, as very mild/asymptomatic cases may not develop an N response, and it does fade over time. I know there were studies to see if anti-RBD testing would work better, but I'm not sure what the results were.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Got mine & a flu shot last month.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Get right on that.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I am not at all suggesting to not take Covid seriously, please get your shots and mask up in confined or crowded spaces and on transit and especially when not feeling well and unable to stay home. However it's worth giving perspective that that puts its death toll now at similar to an unusually bad flu year, or about twice as bad as a typical flu year. Covid is no longer, thankfully, a leading cause of death and it now pales in comparison to deaths caused by accidents, or by obesity, or smoking. In 2021 for example, Covid deaths were at least 8 times higher than they are now.

Most telling, given how difficult to track Covid adjacent deaths or to be certain of what caused every death, excess deaths has returned to prepandemic levels, meaning the overall death rate in the US is now within the margin of historical norms.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

However it’s worth giving perspective that that puts its death toll now at similar to an unusually bad flu year, or about twice as bad as a typical flu year.

It's killing as many as in a bad flu year - but we're not even in the middle of a surge at the moment. The background numbers are twice as deadly as the flu, and they're going to get worse when winter actually kicks in, more people get sick, and hospitals start getting overloaded again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A recent surge went up to 1400 per week, there may be a Dec-Jan surge that goes significantly above that but death rates are down significantly across the year compared to a year ago.

Regardless the comparison to a bad flu year was based on an average over the year based on 1000/week for Covid which has been roughly average in 2023 so far which seemed a better way to show it given how extremely seasonal Flu is and to a lesser extent Covid. Regardless excess deaths is a better metric to look at and we are back to a baseline there.

Again, I am not saying to not take Covid seriously and not to take precautions. What I am saying is that the vast majority of people should no longer let Covid prevent them from living their life to its fullest and taking care of themselves, as depression/inactivity related illnesses are now a larger threat. IE. If you arent going to the gym because you're scared of Covid, that is counterproductive for your health now, nit exercising enough is more dangerous to your health than Covid right now. Or likewise if you're letting fear of Covid cause depression and anxiety and lack of physical contact with loved ones, as the effects of those things are also statistically more dangerous than Covid right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Something to note is deaths don't tell the whole story, covid has many somewhat common long-term side effects such as exhaustion and respiratory issues, which can last years after infection. Long covid (basically a mix of these and many more symptoms) also affects about 1/4 people who get covid, though this is trending downward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was worried about catching covid when out in public, but now I've gone back to just worrying about being shot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

With COVID killing so many people, Flu can take the year off. That's how that works, right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

That pure blood not working out so well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

@MicroWave That's more deaths from COVID per week than from car crashes.