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[–] 1 point 1 day ago

I'm confused. If smoking is bad for you because it clogs up the blood vessels in the lungs with tar and reduces oxygen to the body, and with 500 or so chemicals added to the equation. Why is vaping ok when, in fact, it has as many chemicals and does the same amount of harm to your body? Make it totally illegal for dumb people who don't realize this.
Here is an extra bit of wisdom: we all know we're going to die one day; what we should worry about is "How you're going to die."

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  • [–] 27 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Prohibition only serves to empower organized crime and cops. We have been through this shit with booze and cannabis. We know better than this. Come on people.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    This is just going to make them cool as hell for kids???

    Trust me I grew up with marijuana being illegal and somehow it made marijuana, the least edgey drug I have ever encountered, feel edgey and cool.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I think it was the back alley deals that made weed cool and the bit of camaraderie that comes along with the in-group baddies smoking weed.

    Now you just go into a shop and there's a 19+ year old trying to sell you the ultra super duper bubble gum thunder blitz hybrid with 91% THC that you smoke through the shatter bong. Feels like Vegas when you just want a Doobie.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    What made weed cool was that weed was made illegal because of racism and was always cool... we are just addicted to the forms of racism that disappear when you look right at them more than we are willing to let ourselves have cool things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    Edibles are pretty nice

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (23 children)

    Black market suffer too much after loosing hand on canabis?

    Which prohibition has ever been good for health?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Also the other history notr: we literally did win against cigarettes with public health interventions.

    Then we defunded public health and for some reason aslo took a decade to start treating vaping as smoking.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Treating vaping like smoking is wrong, though. They are nothing alike besides containing nicotine.

    And you can't even compare that because the forms of nicotine are different. The one used in modern vapes is only about 12% as bioavailable as the nicotine in tobacco.

    Vaping is 95% less harmful, but there's a gigantic misinformation campaign against it. Most studies that show that vaping produces harmful substances either had methodology that was designed to produce harmful results by using the devices in ways humans wouldn't, or the scientific reporting on the study grossly misrepresented the findings to make vapes sound scary.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    You underestimated the risk factor of the delivery method.

    Cigarettes are not only cancerous because of the content but also the fact that you're breathing in burnt material.

    Nicotine has a threshold for addiction. A lot of vapes go over it. And the companies complain when they are forced to produce nonaddictive products.

    More disinformation comes from the vaping industry. How has the finacial incentive to suppress vaping? Even tobacco companies own vape products so they are not being hurt.

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    [–] 21 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    Plenty of opportunities for me on the black market then.

    Morons.

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    [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I agree with prohibition.

    However, I know this incentivises the black market. The middle ground I would be OK with is the crown monopolies model in them like LCBO, not now where you can get it at any store.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    not now where you can get it at any store.

    Please understand, a carton at any store cost north of $200. Drive 1 hour from any major town an you can buy a carton for less than $50 at the rez.

    While the majority of the tobacco is illegally sourced through the HA. First Nations Peoples in Canada have asserted their right to produce and sell tobacco. RCMP enforcement has only succeeded in pushing sales to further from major city centers.

    Basically restricting locations will just drive more people towards the already flourishing black market supply chain.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Having watched my own parents die from smoking related illnesses, my father in law and sister in law succumb to lung cancer, it’s a shit way to go. Not something I want to watch or wish upon anyone.

    As an ex smoker myself who hasn’t smoked in over 20 years, there are still days I think I’d like a smoke. It’s got a helluva mental hold on you.

    Anything we can do to keep the next generation of kids to pick up this filthy habit is a win in my opinion. Stop them before they ever get the chance to start.

    This may not be perfect, but at least it’s something.

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    [–] 4 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    regulatory hubris will only strengthen the black market.

    personally I am actually FOR this as I want my dual nicotine/thc vapes ASAP. the black market always provides. and I dont give a fuck what your opinion is on this.

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