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[–] 49 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Its too bad Jon isn't actually explicitly anti capitalist and just tows the line for the democratic party

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  • [–] 15 points 17 hours ago* (3 children)

    needless prescriptivism (although it does sort of change the mental image)toe the line

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  • [–] 17 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Comrade... Jon Stewart?!?! cereal2

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  • [–] 24 points 14 hours ago

    John is a true liberal, the sort the United States doesn't really have any more. He has perfectly fine analysis of the working conditions inside the imperial core. And he'll take that analysis to Bezos' face and tell him, you're risking a proletarian uprising, idiot.

    He doesn't talk about international conditions or US foreign policy much. When he does, its coin-flip of "war in general bad, this war specifically good-ish" or "HOO-RA! SEMPER FI!"

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  • [–] 54 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

    Hmm, this Jon Stewart guy sounds pretty cool. I think I will listen to what else he has to say, and let his worldview inform mine until I can no longer distinguish them, and take it as a personal attack on me if anyone attacks him for any reason.

    clueless

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  • [–] 28 points 17 hours ago

    You know, Dave Ramsey has made an interesting point. Maybe us poors need to learn a thing or two from the elitists. We should use some of their tactics right back!

    We should form our own networks where we chat together and coordinate price hikes on our labor, we should also do so that when rich people feel entitled to a raise like landlords raising rent, we work together to price hike our labor and push the cost on our bosses. What should this organization be called? An onion? A unicorn? Someone help me out here…

    Us poors can be so silly, our bad for letting this happen!

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  • [–] 34 points 18 hours ago

    There are two liberals inside you

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  • [–] 31 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    I had to take a personal finance class with video lectures by Dave Ramsey. It was wild the way he was so out of touch with the financial state of the world. He was very much a bootstraps guy. I didn't know what to think at the time, but now he just makes me so mad.

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  • [–] 17 points 16 hours ago

    i knew this guy that was all into those big personalities doling out personal finance info. we were in school together. at the time i was just frugal due to my former and then-current circumstances. my friend was far more comfortable, but wasn't dumb with money so he managed to hang onto it better than his parents did theirs.

    10 years later, we had both improved our income. in the interim, i had gotten into reading about personal finance. my takeaway was about developing my own decision tree for what to do with each month's unallocated income. emergency fund vs. student debt vs. long term/goal savings vs. retirement, with the benefit being that once i had it figured out, i stopped having make decisions every payday about it. i just put the money where i went based on current conditions and then got back to my life. when emergencies came up, i had a fund for that and used it. i adjusted the size of the emergency fund based on stability and risk.

    all that to say, i came up with a way to personally relate my income to my lifestyle to my goals. admittedly, it was pretty low key, but that is sort of the unspoken victory of personal finance: it's personal. there are things i do not give a shit about, that don't bring me joy, and i can skip doing those things and treat myself in other ways that i do enjoy... without feeling like i'm being irresponsible. after being poor for a long time, there is a real victory in creating that distinction for myself. it turns out, my personal satisfaction is a cheap thing. the real benefit was rarely needing any executive function to make operational spending decisions anymore. just put the money where it goes and spend it when it needs spending. car shit its bed? well, that's budgeted. i shit the bed? that's budgeted too!

    anyway, my friend was in much better circumstances than me, but he was deep into the ramsey sphere of B.S. by this point. we could talk personal finances easily and shared the jargon, but he was always thinking aggressively about "putting money to work". retirement and long term savings weren't flashy enough, so he was always looking for those "opportunities" to try and acquire "money-making" assets. or investing in a self-employment scheme that he put together, but was far more work than he anticipated and had to exit a few years later. or taking the highest paying job he could find that required doing miserable work and spending +3 hours a day commuting. that "hustle" kinda shit. his financial setup was very impersonal to his actual circumstances.

    i had been sliding into marxian thinking about my time/labor and was absolutely moving in the other direction. i was/am always on the lookout for things and ways to reduce my operational costs so i never have to work more hours than is absolutely necessary to achieve the cost baseline. nor do i have to look for opportunities ascend upward to positions of more responsibility and stress for more income. my goals are all in service to that end: reduce long term costs. learning cheap ways to eat healthy and buying the things needed to make it easier. i dropped significant bucks and took a paycut to relocate across country to a job/place with a very limited commute requirement and access to civic/public transit infrastructure, bike trails, etc. when i spend savings its for lowering energy use and reorienting toward renewables. i am within striking distance of having a commute that is short, sweet and powered by home solar.

    there's no real flash to me, but my professional situation is calm/engaging and the things i get excited about are simple. i have much to do before i can really start kicking my feet up, but it all makes sense and is within reach over the next years. i don't know that i could retire early, because healthcare is FUCKED in the US, but i could probably negotiate some kind of nominal job where it's almost like i am retired.

    my friend, the ramsey acolyte, has hit some frustrating dead ends, drives hours and hours a day to work with complete assholes (think wannabe MAGA chud influencers) in an unstable professional landscape of toxic competition and i think he's locked into the climb where if he doesn't continually make significantly more and more money by skipping rungs on the ladder, it may all come crashing down. just thinking about living like that makes me wanna BARF.

    it's sorta weird because he calls me to brag about shit every year or so, but none of it sounds good to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    It can be both. Plenty of people adopted poor spending habits due to the system allowing high interest credit cards to exist, and also creating a sense of needing everything NOW vs saving. It's a very consumerism drive that's beaten into us younger than 50. Older than 50 lived without credit cards and learned very different budgeting, saving, and actually had a better chance of making money.

    SOME of what Dave talked about in the beginning was helpful, but then he got wealthy off his stuff and became more extreme. It mostly helped his generation or older folks though, the ones who had money to spend carelessly in the first place; to reel it back in. His lack of understanding the younger generations made him sound like a piece of shit instead of him trying to understand not everyone is reckless with money and a lot of us simply don't have money to spend.

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  • [–] 43 points 18 hours ago* (2 children)

    Notably, he's talking about poverty.

    People in poverty don't have credit card debt because of poor spending habits, they have it because they needed to replace their car's engine to keep their job and didn't have any money to pay for the expenses because of the poverty.

    Nothing he talks about is useful for people in poverty. It's exclusively useful for boomers with more money than sense.

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  • [–] 22 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Dave's advice is basically put your money in index funds and wait for the 7% interest to give you a million dollars. And you should be spending zero money on anything else, healthcare? Don't get sick. Car? Buy a used car that doesn't have any issues (how does one find this mythical cheap car that doesn't have any issues? He never specified) Food? You can live off a 500 calorie diet for a few years right? The important thing is to sacrifice every ounce of joy you might have, and prepare for when you have the money saved and in your fifties you can waste that money on the most horrible Carribean cruise experiences of your life.

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