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[–] 110 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Woh ! 1700 partners trackers to accept before viewing this page ? Seriously ?

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    [–] 24 points 5 days ago (12 children)

    Can we get back the headphone jacks instead?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    I used to share this opinion but grew out of it tbh.

    From an engineering perspective headphone jacks are: a) a huge waste of space for no real functionality as the function is integrated in USB-C or lightning.

    b) an unnecessary weak point in water- and dustproofing.

    If you need an audio jack, specialised models still have it or a dedicated android audio player (fiio make great ones) will serve you better.

    I say this as an audiophile btw.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I wouldn't miss the audio jack, if phones had two usb-c ports, one for charging and one for audio. But all adapter I tried that allowed charging the phone while listening to audio where very flimsy and/or unhandy.

    I just would like not every device to have is own built-in or custom battery. Them being changeable is good, but I would also love if we start having a smaller set of standardized formats.

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    [–] 88 points 6 days ago (14 children)

    I daily the OG fairbuds, and while I love the repairability, I can honestly say they're some of the worst earbuds I've ever used.

    They have connection problems

    they fail to charge when placed in the case half the time

    The. touch controls are finicky and often miss taps, but somehow they can be activated by a single strand of hair landing on the case.

    The app just doesn't work, I have never been able to get it to connect to the earbuds.

    I've reported all of these issues to Fairphone, and I've recieved little in the way of helpful responses. Hopefully they have managed to make their second gen product more usable, because I do genuinely think a repairable earbuds is a phenomenal idea. And yeah, despite all the issues I still use them everyday.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    That's really disappointing to hear (pun not intended). I've been looking for a pair of these earphones that are actually worth the money, because I got sick of paying for airpods only for them to fail within 2 years like clockwork.

    Just throwing these things away is horrendous and I was hoping that fairbuds would be good.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 days ago

    As its a first gen product from a pretty green hardware company, it wasn't super surprising to me they had serious issues. The real test will be to see if the second generation fixes those issues without adding a bunch more.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 days ago

    Good of you to share your experience, any idea if this is general consensus or more your specific unit?

    Not ideal, but hopefully you just selflessly funded their beta and V2 is stable

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    [–] 53 points 6 days ago (9 children)

    I bought the original fairbuds at launch. I'm not gonna pretend they are good sound quality for music - bass especially is terrible - but they are fine for podcasts and the like.

    I've had to have one bud - right iirc - replaced under warranty, no hassle beyond the obvious annoyance of it breaking.

    When they break again, I'll likely replace them with whatever version of fairbuds exist then. Ultimately I care more about how fairphone source their materials, the reparebility, and setting a precident, than if a pair of buds I use for maybe 3 hours a week are a bit crap.

    Not a glowing review, but yknow.

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    [–] 9 points 5 days ago* (2 children)

    I’m so fucking sick of AirPod designs. It’s fucking stupid. I lose them frequently and they’re never comfortable, and they’re expensive as hell.

    [Edited grammar]

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  • [–] 18 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Damn. The original fairbuds came with my fairphone and I was a big fan from the start. Zero issues with hardware or software, or sound quality. Sure glad I opened this thread to understand how lousy they actually are.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 days ago* (18 children)

    Just give me a fucking headphone jack. I'd buy one of these phones in a heartbeat for a headphone jack dude.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    From their website:

    Why newer Fairphone models do not have an audio jack

    Removing the traditional 3.5mm audio jack gives us space inside the phone to make key hardware improvements. Without this opening, we can fit a larger battery, design a slimmer smartphone, and preserve room for repairable spare parts. Removing the port also helps seal the phone against water and dust, allowing modern models to reach IP ratings like IP55 on Fairphone 4 and IP68 on Fairphone 5. Moving audio to the USB-C port and Bluetooth connections lets us build a more durable phone that lasts as long as possible.  

    I still call Bullshit though. So annoying. And the PP NTS that the make are not even really true. Its not like you can't do this things with a headphone jack.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago

    It’s not bullshit. I deal with the repair and engineering side of 1/8” phone jacks and they’re fucking stupid ass miniaturized versions of designs from 70 years ago that have to maintain mechanical backwards compatibility with several profiles and conductor arrangements, literally cannot be reliably implemented in a high IP way, cost a bunch, are worse to clean than even usbc and provide a very high leverage thing to torque on your board as well as necessitate additional pcb space for the dac and its power conditioning, shielding and other stuff.

    And people who like 1/8” will just buy a dongle anyway.

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    [–] 12 points 5 days ago (13 children)

    How hard is it for them to include a DAC and aux port in their phones? They're tiny! I tried using Bluetooth headphones with the OnePlus 5 but the poor sound quality and constant need to recharge and replace due to their batteries dying every few months was exhausting. That experience was enough to drive me back to the exceptional reliability of plug and play traditional headphones with a Galaxy Xcover 6 Pro.

    I don't care how easy it is to replace the batteries in Fairphone's new headphones. Their ethos should compel them to include a jack for those who don't want to waste rare earth metals.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago*

    Phone thickness is the excuse, but adtech is the reason. Just look at how camera lenses are handled.

    Forcing everyone to use Bluetooth means you're more likely to leave it permanently enabled. And that means a lot more data for adtech. All those beacons in shopping and urban areas make population-scale measurement trivial.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago

    I agree that phones should just come with an aux port, but I've also never experienced the issues with wireless earbuds that I see other people talk about.

    In fact I think my original airpod pros lasted longer than any pair of wired earbuds I've owned. I had them for years and they were still working fine when I lost one. Currently I use wired earbuds to help keep track of them.

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    [–] 10 points 5 days ago

    When I just bought a Fairphone a few weeks ago, I just barely missed the free fairbuds deal. I inquired about it and they gave me a $100 discount code for each phone. I held off buying them because I had a feeling there were about to drop new earbuds. Glad I did.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Seeing all the moderately negative reviews for the 1st gen earbuds they made, I just want to add, if you are in the market for over ear headphones, the fairbuds xl (I think that is what they are called), are pretty good in my opinion.

    They also released a 2nd gen model of these like last year, I had mine since February or so, I really like them. I am no audiophile but they sound good to me.

    The 1st gen model had some issues with stability of some plastic parts for some customers, I haven't had any issues with these 2nd gen ones and I use them almost every day.

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    [–] 2 points 4 days ago*

    Well, they had my attention because I was looking for new earphones, but they are another stupid tailed design one so guess this is a pass.

    Why does it seem like nobody can make minimalistic earphones anymore. They all gotta be huge goady "LOOK AT ME WORLD I HAVE EARPHONES IN" style ones. If I wanted the entire world to know that I was wearing something I would wear headphones. The entire point of earphones is to keep them minimalistic in design, but we've lost that along the way.

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