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[–] 41 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

If Europe doesn't build stuff like this then it will probably just become poorer and less relevant, while the US and China push forward and dominate the world with their technology.

Europe definitely has the talent for advanced technology. It's probably just a question of having the political will to create the right conditions.

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  • [–] 22 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    It must also stave of a rise of the far right to avoid turning straight back into a vassal state of whatever the fuck is going on over the pond.

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  • [–] 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

    For that we'll need to tackle fascist algorithms, grow a more sovereign Europe free from fascist Russian and American terrorism. We'll need to redistribute wealth significantly back from oligarchs to the non-elite, ie. proletariat and the middle class.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child)

    It must also stave of a rise of the far right

    If only neoliberalism is abandoned. I'm afraid that France might be lost to the far right. The opposition don't have any viable alternative.

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  • [–] 7 points 15 hours ago

    This is great news. The more people can end their reliance on the US, the better for everyone. And the faster it happens, the worse is will be on the US. Which is desperately needed.

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  • [–] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    The article isn't big on details, but this is an interesting development.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    European nations seem to believe the key to exerting military power and deterrance is through building a ton of weapons and hiding them from their enemy AND from their domestic civilians who are scared of how poweful russia is and worry whether russia can be resisted.... and then when russia begins to win the propaganda war at that key moment throw up your hands and say "Damn well russia ALWAYS wins the propaganda war!".

    "Hopefully" then the European militaries are so secretive that the voting populace of the respective countries do not understand how the thing tasked with keeping them safe from invasion has been evolving or changing with regards to drones and other technologies and thus can easily be nudged by russian propaganda into screaming at the top of their lungs to sabotage their own military.

    Ughhhh

    Secrecy above all else though! It is always the "safer" option!

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago

    I don't understand what Leonardo is bringing to this, as far as competition with SpaceX goes. Thales and Airbus cover some of the hardware, payload, and launch capabilities I guess, but none of them are satellite Internet/ communication providers...

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  • [–] 3 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

    Best way to combat a monopoly: create a monopoly of your own

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    It almost seems like a ruse to justify creation of a monopoly. These companies are more like competitors for Lockheed and Boeing than SpaceX. Europe has fast-paced, dynamic space startups too, but these hulking behemoths aren't them.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 20 hours ago* (1 child)

    The best way to combat monopoly is well designed, independent and empowered government regulation, but I get your point in this case, we are talking about infrastructure on a massive scale and the job needed to be done yesterday so working together is probably best....

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago

    Hell yeah. Here’s hoping they can get β€˜er done without falling to russian/israeli fsckery.

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  • [–] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    Yep. Instead of everyone taking a step back, and thinking about whether these things are needed, it's a technology race once again. Then again, as these are seemingly mostly used for war-efforts, environmental concerns are obviously not the highest priority...

    That's already the second time this week I have to dig out this link: https://www.sciencefocus.com/space/how-elon-musks-dying-satellites-could-hurt-the-ozone-layer

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago

    Like the AI bros imagining AI will cure cancer, Space bros seem to think orbital garbage collection is a business model on the horizon. At least that was the response I got when I tried to talk to my friend at Blue Origin about Kessler Syndrome (which we're pretty darn close to).

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