So uhhh, 2027 is the year of TempleOS on the desktop, right?

genuine question from me, the uninformed: If a change or commit is being presented as code a person authored (or without indicating one way or another) how can someone tell it is LLM slop vs code a person wrote?

Like, with writing, there are sort of semi-intangible patterns that make me recognize AI slop, but even then I don’t know for sure- its mostly based on suspicion that comes from reading AI slop in the first place. Like one example I can think of is the “Not X, but Y” summarization at the end of nearly any essay or brief explanation of something. Its always meant to be poetic or impactful and it might have been a genuine style at one point -I think it was common in advertisements maybe?- but now it makes me think, “huh, this is probably slop”

So for code, is there some BS that they are always doing that feels inhuman or wrong? Do they make the same errors or add unnecessary shit that makes people roll their eyes? Or is it just a high volume of work with only a short turnover? If someone asked an LLM to write a fix to a bug they encountered, and then submitted it as their own fix, how does one know it is slop?

I think this article is quite a bit ungenerous of what Torvalds actually said. The only gross part here is him taking money from Meta but that's probably not the first time he accepted big corpo money, his actual stance is IMO more reasonable than what this article portrays it to be, basically he said trusted maintainers should deprioritize new contributors that are likely to be LLM slop.

That said he really should be even more conservative in his approach here, even the current amount of LLM patches to the kernel are sketchy enough, he should consider at least a temporary moratorium on LLM patches. The kernel is not some random ass app where it doesn't matter if it gets broken for a while due to LLM usage.

Truly the 2020s is the lost decade of technology. Absolutely nothing got better.

uhoh

We are in the beginning of a huge dark age for software development.

With stackoverflow and forums dead, a whole generation untrained, LLM-companies about to crash in the coming years, local models self-poisoning and going out of date. Deslopping all the garbage that is currently getting piled onto the entire infrastructure is going to be a slow thankless and almost entirely self-imposed waste of time.

Torvalds answered that the kernel project only wants serious developers. That includes having access to enough resources to function in this world.

well that's the end of open source linux

this is like that mozilla dick hammering post except it's the entire linux community acting in response to windows 11

the kernel itself is becoming vibe-coded because linus decided to become a tech bro who apparently never cared about social issues, important tools like rsync no longer work because they're also vibe-coded now, GTK4 and QML apps use more system resources than electron apps now and that's all anyone seems to want to develop with for some godforsaken reason, etc. etc. etc.

i used to actually like desktop linux but now i just use it apathetically because there aren't any viable alternatives

god damn it

It's the year of the NetBSD desktop!

Linuslop Rustokenvalds

Tower of Slop
Tower of Babel

So the slop-gates were open. What sort of technical excellence did the antisocial warriors contribute? There’s this one from five days after Torvalds’ announcement. The message laments that the networking maintainers are drowning in slop — so they fixed this with more slop:

genuinely: how bad can it be if there's human oversight. AI is like a drug, if you taste it once you're hooked especially when trying to finish projects...