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[–] 14 points 2 hours ago*

Sounds like a generic botnet along with TVs, app based home cameras, routers and such.


Anyways, I remember some old story I've read, not idea if true or not, but someone was going over .sh files of a past employer and one of them telneted into a coffee machine (that reportedly nobody else knew had telnet) and made it brew coffee in just the right timing for the person to walk there and put a cup in the machine for coffee to start pouring right away. I guess that's one actually good use for a "smart coffee machine"... Or they could wait. Unless they are paid hourly and the coffee break isn't included, somehow.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

    Haha. As a consultant, I worked on a crapton of IoT projects. Not a single one could explain WHY they needed all that data. If you're just storing user actions, it's not really useful, or actionable.

    I made coffee at 8:03 am on Tuesday, did laundry at 2:39.873 pm on a Saturday, or opened the fridge door at 6pm and closed it at 6:02pm.

    So what.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 hours ago

    The more info they have about you, the worse it gets.

    And even if the company just uses your right to privacy just to make money through ads. You can be sure they will get hacked by people with even less morals.

    They can use all that data to open a bank account on your name and commit tons of tax fraud.

    Who do you think they will arrest? That is right, you.

    And getting out of that will always cost you tons of time, effort and money. So good luck.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    So what?

    Well you drink coffee in the morning so it's probable that you go to the bathroom soon after.

    Oh your did laundry on Saturday the weekend? I bet your don't do laundry during the week because work. Maybe you won't be home around then...

    Opened the fridge door at 6:00 pm and it was open for 2 minutes? I bet the person is hungry. Quick flash their marketing ID with ads for fast food!

    Stuff like that is what they use the info for.

    If you wear a smart watch that monitors your heartrate. You bet your ass they know when you have sex and when you need more condoms.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

    Regardless if this is true or not I will never buy a “smart” device again. Why does my refrigerator need internet connection to cool my food?!?!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    The fridge app can use the phone's microphone to find out which compressor frequencies resonate loudly in the room, and avoid them.

    When everyone's phones are away, the fridge can pre-cool and make noise, and then go silent when someone is nearby, according to the motion detector.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago*

    The smart part isn't the problem.

    The internet connection is.

    Use smart devices on protocols like Z-Wave or Zigbee, which set up their own separate network. And then prevent the controller from ever reaching the internet so none of the devices can access it. Through things like Mac Blacklisting.

    You will still be able to access everything while on your local network.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    It doesn't, they want an internet connection so they can track your food usage and then sell your more food, they want your money forever

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  • [–] 50 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Considering the website claims it "respects your privacy" but doesn't give you a choice to opt out of cookies for 1,746 partners, the website hardly seems like a good source

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    [–] 66 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

    The title is a bit dishonest, most of the data didn't leave the local network. According to the article, sending this much data seem to have been a bug instead of intended design.

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  • [–] 41 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

    Okay, but here me out. Maybe coffee makers shouldn't have a way to generate data.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 hours ago* (4 children)

    My coffee maker is a pot and heating element in a plastic shell, as it should be. As it was for 60 years.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    "As it should be" is a strong statement. There are many more ways of making coffee.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 hours ago

    I feel like you’re purposefully taking that statement out of context to imply that I’m against things like the French press. We’re talking about electric coffee makers, and I’m clearly saying that they should have no internet connection.

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  • [–] 38 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    It’s also based entirely on a tweet with zero follow-up or explanation as to what happened. People have lied on Twitter in the past, shockingly.

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  • [–] 24 points 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    Home grade router counting is notriously inaccurate.

    Keurig machines are best left at the shop. They create mountains of waste.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    It was 10GB as far as I remember

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  • [–] 21 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

    why is a coffee machine connected to wifi ffs. user error there.

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