▲ 75 ▼ US to build two military bases in Greenland under new deal with Denmark (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 1 week ago by Quokka@quokk.au to c/world@quokk.au 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments The defence deal signed at the UN General Assembly also re-affirms Denmark's sovereignty over its semi-autonomous Arctic territory.
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 week ago (14 children) Denmark rolled over and showed their asshole so hard and quick. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (12 children) Denmark has given nothing more than the USA already had access to This is just Trump trying to make a nothing deal look like a win permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I really don't understand how some of y'all have this conclusion. It don't matter if it was already allowed. It doesn't matter how the deal was already written. That's irrelevant. This is how fascism works. They won a victory, now they get to claim a big victory, now they're going to do whatever the fuck they want because paper treaties don't matter to them. This ain't new shit people. Did none of y'all pay attention in school? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moth@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago except that they didn't "win a victory". an old man with dementia is loudly crying about how he won, and simpletons on Lemmy are fretting about how fascism has struck some sort of blow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago We well see. Once greenland energy starts drilling when they don't have permission, we well see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (8 children) Classic Denmark apologist response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Call it what you want. The main (new) point of the deal is that Greenland has to remain a part of NATO if it at some point become a seperate country. The rest of the chamber to the existing deal were mostly formalities and definitions of things that already could have been passed with the existing deal. Both the points about establishing more bases and using drones. I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (4 children) I mean, getting two extra military bases of a nation that has demonstrated itself to be highly violent, invading neighbors and threatening to invade allies, seems like a bad deal. Almost as bad a deal as buying military equipment from them that they have a kill-switch for. When a nation is rapidly sliding towards fascism, maintaining business as usual is short-sighted. Europe should be preparing for the possibility of US aggression, possibly coordinated with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical Appeasing Trump and giving him something he can spin as a "win" (even if it isn't one in reality as you said) increases his power and makes him an even bigger problem for everyone in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 point 1 week ago Did they ask the Greenlanders for any input? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (12 children) Denmark has given nothing more than the USA already had access to This is just Trump trying to make a nothing deal look like a win permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I really don't understand how some of y'all have this conclusion. It don't matter if it was already allowed. It doesn't matter how the deal was already written. That's irrelevant. This is how fascism works. They won a victory, now they get to claim a big victory, now they're going to do whatever the fuck they want because paper treaties don't matter to them. This ain't new shit people. Did none of y'all pay attention in school? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moth@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago except that they didn't "win a victory". an old man with dementia is loudly crying about how he won, and simpletons on Lemmy are fretting about how fascism has struck some sort of blow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago We well see. Once greenland energy starts drilling when they don't have permission, we well see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (8 children) Classic Denmark apologist response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Call it what you want. The main (new) point of the deal is that Greenland has to remain a part of NATO if it at some point become a seperate country. The rest of the chamber to the existing deal were mostly formalities and definitions of things that already could have been passed with the existing deal. Both the points about establishing more bases and using drones. I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (4 children) I mean, getting two extra military bases of a nation that has demonstrated itself to be highly violent, invading neighbors and threatening to invade allies, seems like a bad deal. Almost as bad a deal as buying military equipment from them that they have a kill-switch for. When a nation is rapidly sliding towards fascism, maintaining business as usual is short-sighted. Europe should be preparing for the possibility of US aggression, possibly coordinated with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical Appeasing Trump and giving him something he can spin as a "win" (even if it isn't one in reality as you said) increases his power and makes him an even bigger problem for everyone in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I really don't understand how some of y'all have this conclusion. It don't matter if it was already allowed. It doesn't matter how the deal was already written. That's irrelevant. This is how fascism works. They won a victory, now they get to claim a big victory, now they're going to do whatever the fuck they want because paper treaties don't matter to them. This ain't new shit people. Did none of y'all pay attention in school? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moth@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago except that they didn't "win a victory". an old man with dementia is loudly crying about how he won, and simpletons on Lemmy are fretting about how fascism has struck some sort of blow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moth@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago except that they didn't "win a victory". an old man with dementia is loudly crying about how he won, and simpletons on Lemmy are fretting about how fascism has struck some sort of blow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago We well see. Once greenland energy starts drilling when they don't have permission, we well see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (8 children) Classic Denmark apologist response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Call it what you want. The main (new) point of the deal is that Greenland has to remain a part of NATO if it at some point become a seperate country. The rest of the chamber to the existing deal were mostly formalities and definitions of things that already could have been passed with the existing deal. Both the points about establishing more bases and using drones. I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (4 children) I mean, getting two extra military bases of a nation that has demonstrated itself to be highly violent, invading neighbors and threatening to invade allies, seems like a bad deal. Almost as bad a deal as buying military equipment from them that they have a kill-switch for. When a nation is rapidly sliding towards fascism, maintaining business as usual is short-sighted. Europe should be preparing for the possibility of US aggression, possibly coordinated with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical Appeasing Trump and giving him something he can spin as a "win" (even if it isn't one in reality as you said) increases his power and makes him an even bigger problem for everyone in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Call it what you want. The main (new) point of the deal is that Greenland has to remain a part of NATO if it at some point become a seperate country. The rest of the chamber to the existing deal were mostly formalities and definitions of things that already could have been passed with the existing deal. Both the points about establishing more bases and using drones. I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (4 children) I mean, getting two extra military bases of a nation that has demonstrated itself to be highly violent, invading neighbors and threatening to invade allies, seems like a bad deal. Almost as bad a deal as buying military equipment from them that they have a kill-switch for. When a nation is rapidly sliding towards fascism, maintaining business as usual is short-sighted. Europe should be preparing for the possibility of US aggression, possibly coordinated with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical Appeasing Trump and giving him something he can spin as a "win" (even if it isn't one in reality as you said) increases his power and makes him an even bigger problem for everyone in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (4 children) I mean, getting two extra military bases of a nation that has demonstrated itself to be highly violent, invading neighbors and threatening to invade allies, seems like a bad deal. Almost as bad a deal as buying military equipment from them that they have a kill-switch for. When a nation is rapidly sliding towards fascism, maintaining business as usual is short-sighted. Europe should be preparing for the possibility of US aggression, possibly coordinated with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] outerspace@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) Couldn't they build the bases anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yep. These idiots are just mad that Schitler gets what looks like a win. The US has gained nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) How is 2 additional military base "nothing"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago I'm betting you're not going to see any new construction at all. Purely a pen and paper agreement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't know, why you are so angry at Denmark but to be honest I don't really care. But this deal is good diplomatic work with a president who is highly unpredictable and illogical Appeasing Trump and giving him something he can spin as a "win" (even if it isn't one in reality as you said) increases his power and makes him an even bigger problem for everyone in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago Only for those who don't realize that no real victory happened. For anyone who realizes that - and any competent statesperson will - then it only serves to make Trump look like even more of a fool, and confirms the way to treat that fool as a fool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 point 1 week ago Did they ask the Greenlanders for any input? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago I don't see that Greenland or Denmark benefit from this "deal". permalink fedilink source
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago Did they publish the text anywhere? Anything different on mineral rights? permalink fedilink source
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago Just let them have the Sudetenland! They'll surely stop there. permalink fedilink source
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago Re-affirms "sovereignty", lol. Is this the Onion? permalink fedilink source
[–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 1 week ago The US doesn't do defense. What could possibly go wrong? permalink fedilink source
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