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[–] 0 points 6 days ago

Is this an LLM style AI, or a machine learning AI.

If it's a LLM, it's not worth a penny

If it's a true machine learning AI, then I can see the worth of it.

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  • [–] 172 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    You're absolutely right to push back, I should have landed that plane before it ran out of fuel. Would you like me to explore options for funerals?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The fuel is the load bearing component of the equation.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago*

    I generated a letter to the loved ones. Let me know if you want it to be less personal:

    I hope this letter finds you well. Yesterday's plane crash wasn't just a terrible accident—it was a horrible mistake...

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    [–] 107 points 1 week ago (24 children)

    So a quick search suggests air traffic controllers make around $75,000 annually. $875 million would pay the salaries of 11,666 air traffic controllers for a decade at that wage.

    Even considering inflation, training, medical, etc that $875,000,000 could pay for thousands of hired Amemricans for a decade. Republicans are literally the worst.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 week ago (16 children)

    $75,000 annually

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports about double that as the median pay ($148,080).

    I still agree with the rest of your math and think the investment is worth it, but just clarifying the number.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    the other issue is aparently it's hard to get people to do that job.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I do believe its considered top 2 most stressful jobs, not hard to see why

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  • [–] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I was listening to live ATC broadcast this evening for O'Hare ground control.

    Jesus tapdancing Christ, no idea how they do it.

    All you hear is a steady stream of instructions like "j1234, approach 10L and hold, then sierra sierra golf tango tango alpha" which are "directions" for pilots to taxi to a gate.

    They are ripping them off at hyperspeed, no mistakes. The audio quality of some pilots is just terrible but somehow they know wtf they said. They have dozens of planes on the ground at a time, organizing the chaos of them all without blinking. In the hour I listened, I heard one dude doing it all, though I think there are two different ground controllers.

    Planes blocking taxiways, pilots misunderstanding instructions, someone is taking too long to push back from the gate and they're making changes and adapting on the fly.

    Holy shit y'all.

    Listen for yourself and try to figure it out. Audio: https://www.liveatc.net/play/kord1n2_gnd_in.pls Ground mapd: https://www.flightaware.com/resources/airport/ORD/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf

    Good luck.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago

    This touches on an interesting point: relying solely on radio for route instructions is archaic and we desperately need to overhaul it with a digital alternative. Why can't we take some of that budget to modernize ATC?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    The audio quality of some pilots is just terrible but somehow they know wtf they said.

    That is in my experience highly dependent on what kind of radio/antenna is used to record the live broadcast, it's orientation and it's location.

    I have an Icom IC-R6 radio scanner, even at the airport with line of sight of the infrastructure you can still get a terrible reception if the angle of the radio is wrong, the antenna is wrong or you have parked in the wrong spot.

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    [–] 36 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I think they should test it out on the private jets first. Ya know, to make sure it all works great.

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    [–] 33 points 1 week ago

    "You were right to push back - that runway was in fact occupied"

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

    Absolute worst possible use of an LLM: something safety-critical.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I'm sorry, you're right. I should not have directed that plane to the runway with the two planes that have already crashed into each other.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago

    I guess the next time I want to travel internationally I'll take a train to Canada and fly out from there.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    I don't see ANY comments in here where it's clear that people read the fucking article.

    "Har har, AI and ATC, I'll make a funny joke about flying will be unsafe". Yes, it's expected, but if you actually read what this is - it's going to issue predictions about how busy particular times are, basically.

    ZERO use of the AI in the tower by ATC to control aircraft in any way.

    Sure, they might try to introduce such a thing - at which time your jokes will actually apply!

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    [–] 18 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Welp, I'm never flying again. And fuck my house is in a main flight path.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    If you're in a main flight path you will be safe.

    "It looks like I may have confused the available freeway lanes for a designated runway. Did you know I405 contains 523,000 times more asphalt than LAX? I will work on securing an additional freeway for future landings and I have prepared a list of new flight paths."

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    FAA describes the SMART system

    The media and old boomers are going to love talking about this system the moment a plane crashes.

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    8,750 salaries worth of money betting AI can do this with no actual evidence it can.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    because we havent had enough air disasters in the past 2 years.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    Well, here's hoping they are in charge of Air Force One.

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  • 900 million could just hire a lot of skilled engineers and air traffic operators that can be well paid but that doesn’t sound as cool and futuristic as AI

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    We’re fucked.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Ah yes, the same technology that was used to kill 123 Iranian school children

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    [–] 5 points 1 week ago*

    In theory, an automated system should be able to outperform humans at a rote task like this under the right conditions. However, I don’t imagine throwing LLMs in the mix without redesigning the whole system for automation is going to end well.

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