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[–] 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

The purpose of a system is what it does.

On that basis I'm fairly sure 90% of leftist infighters are actually right wing bots.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    A 50-50 of right-wing bots and right-wing moderates who don't want to be associated with the rest of the right-wing so they claim to be of the left (looking at you, liberals)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Well said, A 50-50 of right-wing bots and right-wing moderates who don't want to be associated with the rest of the right-wing so they claim to be of the left (looking at you, liberals)

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  • [–] 25 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

    I was walking across the bridge when I saw someone standing on the ledge, looking ready to jump.

    I rushed over and shouted, "Don't do it! Think of the collective struggle! There is so much worth organizing for!"

    They looked up, wiping away tears, and asked, "Like what?"

    I said, "Well... are you a reactionary, or do you fight for systemic progress?"

    They sniffed. "I fight for systemic progress."

    "Great!" I said. "Are you a liberal reformist, or an anti-capitalist leftist?"

    "An anti-capitalist leftist," they replied.

    "Fantastic! Are you an anarchist or a Marxist?"

    "Marxist."

    "Incredible! Marxist-Leninist, Trotskyist, or Maoist?"

    "Trotskyist."

    "Amazing, comrades in the vanguard! Fourth International, or the International Socialist Tendency?"

    "Fourth International!"

    "Unbelievable! Posadist revolutionary permanent struggle, or orthodox United Secretariat?"

    "Orthodox United Secretariat!"

    "We are practically reading the exact same pamphlets! Now, tell me: when analyzing the Degenerated Workers' State hypothesis regarding post-1928 Soviet bureaucratic collectivism, was the bureaucracy an emergent ruling class with unique exploitative relations to production, or merely a parasitic caste misallocating surplus value while preserving the proletarian property base?"

    They frowned. "Clearly, state ownership meant it remained a distorted workers' state, so the bureaucracy was merely a counter-revolutionary caste, not a true class."

    I took a step back, clenched my fist, and yelled:

    "Die, class-collaborationist counter-revolutionary revisionist scab!"

    ...and shoved them off the ledge.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago* (2 children)

    lol I've seen this before and even saw a little animation of it. Does anyone have a link? I've been looking for a few years now.

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    [–] 4 points 8 hours ago*

    Something something firebomb a Walmart.

    I kinda laugh because there was that one guy firebombing warehouses like not a year ago.

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  • [–] 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (42 children)

    Remember, poor people rely on you to gatekeep the movement. Think about how people struggling with medical bills will feel if they find out you let a non-vegan help. Not on my watch.


    purity progressives: "I mean yea, he wants universal healthcare, ending wars, abolishing ICE and the police, investing in schools and the arts, social safety nets and taxing the rich..... but... he called RFK jr an r-word one time... so, he's basically a nazi and I hope he dies"

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

    Man I wish I lived in your parallel reality where those where the deal breakers preventing anti-fascist coalitions from forming. Rather than, you know, imperialism and genocide.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

    Yeah it sucks. But, y'know, if the imperialism and genocide is invariant between the options, I'm still gonna vote for the one doing fewer other terrible things 🤷🏼

    Obviously I'm also going to do everything I can to get to a point where I don't have an imperialist, genocidal government. Mutual aid, canvassing for leftists in the primaries, political organization, developing community, taking over small municipalities, labor organization, etc.

    All of which is gonna be a lot harder now that this side has declared antifascists to be a terrorist organization, and arrests people for pamphlets.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    That's a point we can debate (not that I feel like doing so right now, but it's at least connected to reality enough to be worth debating). My problem is with the parent commenter, who's acting like all the "purity tests" are about trivial minutae and not how many children each candidate wants to bomb to death.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    To be fair, the original post is about leftist infighting, not liberals. A lot of the leftist infighting is about trivial minutae.

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