Apparently, lives still were worth something back then.
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Was it a myth members of the Bin Laden family were allowed to fly out of the country?
We were all a little touchy, to be fair.
I still remember the international response. There were two kinds. The "we're here for you big guy, whatever you need," and the "I swear I had nothing to do with it." Both of which had strong nervous laughter subtext. Everybody immediately remembered what happened the last time somebody sucker punched America and it didn't go well for Japan.
you can't sucker punch yourself.
tHe 'nervous laughter' would be about what countries where a target for the scumbags with this excuse.
Nah this isn't Hollywood, America stopped winning wars after WW2 nor are they capable of bringing change to invaded countries or maintaining control. All they do is bloat the wallets of the rich and politicians and destroy shit. Increasingly seen as weak and stupid, driven by greed and incompetence. The rest of the world isn't Japan pre-WW2 anymore. If rice farmers and goat herders can't be conquered, neither will nations with modern armies. Nukes are commonplace now, stop living in the past.... Iran sure as fuck isn't nervous
That's such a hilariously bad take.
Iran sure as fuck isn't nervous
Man, the US inevitably failing to secure their poorly defined objective is very different from Iran not getting hurt. Thousands are dead. An immense amount of infrastructure has been destroyed.
Iran has not meaningfully hurt the US.
It's one thing to observe that the current US leadership huffed a bit too much of their own propaganda and forgot that allies have actually been a big reason previous stuff has gone well, and another to act like Iran is in a perfectly fine place with the current situation.
If the snake was poisonous he shouldn't have eaten it.
/overly pedantic differentiation of poisonous vs venomous
Even more pedantic take: "Poisonous" is accurate, but imprecise.
A poison is a harmful substance. A toxin is a poison created by an organism in nature. A venom is a toxin delivered subcutaneously.
I will never not correct this mistake, same with calling a magazine a "clip", or using the wrong version of there/their/they're. If you want to use slang to refer to something, okay whatever. If you're using the term for something similar but different, like how there IS a type of ammunition holder called a clip but it is different from a magazine, then I will correct you. It's not hard just use the correct term
I correct this too, but the worst thing is the people who correct others but think anything going into a gun is a magazine. Like you said, there are both. Most modern weapons use a magazine.
Essentially, a magazine is a container that holds ammo. It isn't just something that goes into a gun. Ships have magazines, where the ammo is stored to be used.
Actually, it's the opposite in firearms. Clips hold ammunition, whereas magazines feed ammunition as part of the firearms operation. Some magazines are removable, whole others are entirely internal.
Most automatic pistols use detachable magazines that lift the ammunition with a spring for feeding into the chamber, wheras double-action revolvers have speed-loading clips that hold ammo in a manner that lets you load the cylinder quickly.
The M1 garand has kinda a hybrid system where there's a clip that holds the ammunition and is inserted into the gun and is fed with the ammo, but is not a magazine.
Snake handler like herpetologist, or snake handler like stupid religious nut?
There was also a plane full of Bin Laden family members that was allowed to leave (another commenter even provided a link).
Never forget 9/11...especially facts like this.
Google "who did George Bush Sr have breakfast with on 9/11?" if you think this is all just a coincidence.
The Bush administration allowed the attacks to happen by indifference and incompetence and then used the American people's fear to get what they wanted.
Which turned out to be what bin Laden wanted
Correct. That single terrorist act has succeeded in ways Americans refuse to acknowledge. We allow the memorial of the event to create division, this last one being particularly divisive.
It's all self inflicted at this point but I could see future historians crediting Bin Laden for seeding the fall of the empire.
The bin Laden's were pretty well off from the construction business, even sponsored the Williams F1 team in the 80's
Osama had been pretty much disowned from the family for decades at that point.
They wouldn't have had a clue. (Unless of course you're insinuating that all Arabs are a hive mind, in which case. Yikes)
Interesting argument. It's almost like you're saying we shouldn't judge entire families, cultures or religions based on the actions of the radical few.
Hmm...you should move to Washington DC. The current US government could really use minds like yours.
Stop you are ruining the American fairy tale
The inland taipan is the most venomous snake in the world, bites are extremely rare so few places stock anti-venom. Also given the snake is from Australia you wouldn’t expect many US hospitals to have it.
3 planes were allowed or am I dumb
Civilian airspace
Trump would have grounded the plane and let them die.
Nice. A lot better than the Saudi evac
House of Saud family members flew back to KSA.
It is my understanding that they did not fly out on 9/11 itself, but the FBI gave them airport escorts to chartered flights out of the country in the days right after 9/11 when most flights were still grounded.
Wouldn't it have been faster to give the anti venom to the fighter pilot to deliver? Which would only need one plane instead of three.
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