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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ideally, such treatments can help transform the traumatic memory into one that more closely resembles ordinary sad memories. “It’s like having a block in the right place,” he said. “If I can access a memory, I know it’s a memory. I know it’s not happening to me now.”

that's pretty awesome stuff.. it really sounds like they're starting to understand PTSD a lot better..

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

... surprising exactly 0 trauma survivors

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I was going to say, and I know this is unscientific, "No shit, its hurting me right fucking now".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

It's good to have words (and especially scientific research) to be able to better understand the experience. It also helps survivors know there's nothing "wrong" with them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I recommend "the body keeps the score" by Bessel van der Kolk to read if you are interested in this. If you are traumatised, beware, this is a tough read.

As other posters already wrote, this isn't new.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

That would explain my adrenaline dumps

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This isn’t new information — traumatologists have known this for a long, long time. Glad that info like this is making news in the NY Times, though!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Word, now tell us how to turn it off please

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, some scientists consider it pseudoscience. It says in the second paragraph of the WebMD article that it is controversial.

Also from the article:

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs considers EMDR an especially effective treatment for people struggling with PTSD.

It is completely normal in science to „fight“ and have different opinions - so I don’t see any problems. Even if it was just (!) the Placebo effect helping a person with PTSD - why not try it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

My girlfriend was treated using EMDR and it worked absolute wonders for her. She had a very intensive treatment for a week, but after that her nightly terrors went from twice a week to maybe once a year or so.

It's important to note it's not just the eyes following a light that's important. She also had two buzzers in each hand that rumbled occasionally, and whilst recalling traumatic experiences she had to answer simple questions like "what's 14 + 7" or "name an animal that starts with the letter B". The theory is that it helps distract the brain from the actual emotion during the trauma, which helps it process the trauma as a regular memory.

If you're in doubt about this treatment, seriously give it a try and don't discount it based on the pseudoscience bit on Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How fast should the eyes move? Can I do it with the bouncing DVD logo on the TV?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There are YouTube videos so you can check that yourself

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Uh oh. There is green shit in your brain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“What it tells us is that the brain is in a different state in the two memories,” said Daniela Schiller, a neuroscientist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and one of the authors of the study.

The traumatic memories appeared to engage a different area of the brain — the posterior cingulate cortex, or P.C.C., which is usually involved in internally directed thought, like introspection or daydreaming.

In recent years, many Americans have embraced treatments such as prolonged exposure therapy and eye movement reprocessing and desensitization, or EMDR, which revisit traumatic memories in hopes of draining them of their destructive force.

In therapy, trying to “build a story, a coherent memory,” the clinician helped the medic fill in details around the edges of that scene, including a dead soldier who lay nearby, shooting in the background, and his own panicked use of too many bandages.

The posterior cingulate cortex is “really involved in the reliving of memories,” and in seeking self-relevance, which may explain why a sensory reminder may cause overwhelming fear or panic.

While most experts agree that motor vehicle accidents, sexual assaults or military combat are traumatic events, there is disagreement about whether experiences like racism or pandemic stress should be viewed as the basis for a PTSD diagnosis, he said.


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