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[–] 2 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Don’t pretty much all Social Media have a chronological „Following“ feed already? Methinks they’re just going to argue that switching to that feed is „turning off“ the „algorithm“, no?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago*

    Yes, though this law specifically requires that users can "having their default feed ... opt out of algorithmically ​recommended content and instead see posts only from the friends and creators they ⁠choose to follow.".

    Basically all platforms inject other posts in your feed somewhere either as "recommendations" or just paid ads, and very few default to your subscriptions when you open an app.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (2 children)

    They do? Where? In Netherlands?

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  • [–] 5 points 14 hours ago

    I mean, this is pretty good in theory, in practice, we can just move more people to the fediverse

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Algorithm: a specific step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end

    Software is full of algorithms.

    I know there is also the recent meaning where "algorithm" stands for recommender systems and algorithmic curation, but I expect lawmakers to be a little more precise in their wording.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    They want to make the Feed without algorithms so bad that nobody will use it.

    Social media companies want regulation to keep out competition while allowing them to keep the ads and algorithm flowing as is today as much as possible

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  • [–] 7 points 21 hours ago

    They can't, if they do they're calling out the social media sites for purposely targeting addictive algorithms and then this bandaid fix will be noticed for the bandaid fix it is. Most people don't know social media uses specifically designed to be addictive algorithms. What happens if everyone knows that. So they flatten out the language.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    On youtube turn off the auto play and mindfully choose what you want. Stop getting force fed like a mindless bag. Also use Duck video player and skip the ads.


    Misinformation,

    Childlike common clay masses,

    Like free heroin

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago*

    Coming up: upload your ID to verify your Australian citizenship

    (but props to Australia for trying to regulate it nevertheless)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    I hope the EU follow up and do the same

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  • [–] 185 points 2 days ago (11 children)

    Should’ve done this instead of garbage age verification.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 day ago*

    Unrelated to algorithms but I opened Roblox yesterday after not playing for a long while and I found that they’ll give you a ‘free item’ if you do an age check

    Disgusting, coercive bullshit just so kids can give their biometric data to American companies. Funny how the eSafety Commission managed to completely forget about the privacy rights of children, let alone those of adults, just so they can rush through their age verification legislation like the world depended on it.

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  • [–] [S] 63 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I am SO uncomfortable with the idea of handing images of my id over.

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    [–] 8 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Insert, "can I get some of that" meme.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Article is light on details. I'm curious how they define what is "algorithm"-generated content and what isn't.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago

    I think the general idea is to go from a 'weighted' feed showing promoted or 'trending content' to a chronological feed showing newest to oldest of your friends posts.
    Thats the way they have been framing it from what i have heard on the news.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 day ago* (5 children)

    Am I the only one who thinks big tech won't do jack shit other than nod and smile and install a user button that doesn't actually change anything at all?

    They are so NOT going to turn this off. This -- the ability to manipulate users by controlling exactly what they see -- is the sole reason they are in business. It gets them ad revenue, data to resell, and massive, uncontrollable political power.

    And they're just going to let a user turn that highly individualized control off and turn themselves into a less monetizable, more ad immune user one by one because some govt told them to? The same governments that have been telling them not to do this or that for decades now?

    Lol, pull the other one.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Tbf they already do that. Google's had a button to turn off ad personalization that's never worked since like, 2014 or something

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Ad personalization is hard to verify because it's all happening on the backend. What you see in a feed is much more visible, so maybe that will make it harder to work around. I haven't read much about how the legislation works and how it defines algorithms, but if it's something like, "only show me people I've subscribed to", then it would be pretty easy to verify whether they are showing that or not.

    But in general, I agree. Big tech companies always find a way to work around this legislation. Enforcement is the issue, not the laws themselves.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago

    I find it easy (when I'm not blocking literally every ad) because they are usually so fucking dumb - do you constantly get bombed by ads about stuff you've recently researched and purchased? If yes, personalization is on.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I'd like to shut off fhe algorithms forcing me to see right wing transphobia on facebroach

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  • [–] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Easy: get off of it.

    If your family is that important and refuses to move: call them occasionally.

    Every second you spend on it is another cent given to meta

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    Yes its dumm to stay on there because of family. As your family has then to stay there because you are there, and suffer the harmful experience. You are then to blame for any shit that happens to them on there.

    Get off. Close it down. Post your stuff somewhere decentralised and let them know how to contact you. If they want to see your pictures, post them there only.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I would probably use facebook much more if my feed was only my friends and followed pages. Their loss on insisting on this I guess.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Nice.

    Someone please tell them they can already do that. It's called the Fediverse.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago

    Damn, first legitimately good thing I've seen come out of that country in a while as far as legislation is concerned.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    When I was on TikTok, I tried to stick to the "following" feed only, but it was very hard not to check the "for you page" (algorithmic feed), because the app is so good at knowing how to dazzle the user. It also defaulted to showing the algorithm when the app is reopened.

    I only know a handful of other people who used the app, but they described the same problem: they follow people, but then they just use the algorithmic feed instead anyway.

    All this to say that there are ways to present a choice to the user in such a way that users will not engage with that choice.

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    [–] 28 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    I've been saying this for a while.

    Of course, our right wing nut jobs won't vote for it because they need rage bait to get votes (and normal people don't post rage bait).

    If this passes, Australia will turn sane again

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    [–] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Reality: social media will be made unavailable in all Australia.

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