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[–] 197 points 1 month ago (48 children)

Many people do give some of their money or belongings to those less fortunate already. It's called charity. Socialists want to create a world where charity isn't necessary.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    I think of it where charity is not optional. Seriously though there would be charities but for more niched things. Not to make sure vets (who get more healthcare than most of the country) get healthcare or children get healthcare. I swear the charity commercials from when I was a kid about children in africa are now about children in the us.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    vets (who get more healthcare than most of the country)

    You may be overestimating the quality of VA hospitals.

    ETA: Just to clarify, I’m not trying to negate their point. I’m just mentioning that veteran healthcare isn’t actually all that great. There’s a good reason so many vets end up crazy and homeless in the US.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Literally any healthcare>>>No healthcare

    There were times in my life that I would not go to the hospital unless I was literally dying for fear of the costs. A ton of people in the US are like that, and imagine how many ignore weird pains or symptoms that then progress into serious conditions that could've been treated if they'd have gotten checked out earlier.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    you may be underestimating nothing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Just to clarify I do agree with the point you were making. I was just commenting on the fact that veteran healthcare in the US isn’t actually that great, and not as easily accessible as some think it is.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    oh I get it but honestly I have seen it in action and for a veteran living in a major area it seems light years above typical. Most things I hear come down to long term care facilities, which are bad for ones the poor end up in if not worse, and people living in the stix. Which again the poor there just are getting nothing. I was in no way trying to say what they get is great just that it is additional to what the non veteran gets. I see a lot of veteran and first responder thing (another profession with generally better benefits than average) and talking about wounds but I tell you its better to be shot as a first responder or veteran than as a teacher although even they tend to at least have benefits. Its real bad if you make your money in the gig economy.

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    [–] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That isn't what socialism is, but it is however exactly what Jesus told people to do. And yet she - a Christian - seems to hold the idea in contempt. Curious.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Side note: Google is NOT your friend.

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    [–] 47 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Dear Capitalists,

    If you want capitalism so bad, be sure to "donate" a billion to the campaign of your favorite politician and use socialism to transfer wealth from the people to you without having to actually sell them anything, then use those billions to buy your own island...

    Oh wait they are already doing that, sorry

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    [–] 29 points 1 month ago

    "Google is your friend."

    It might be her friend but it isn't ours!

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Isn't that how people who decry socialism define it, not really how socialism actually works?

    It's really more a description of welfare, which is something that can be utilized by socialism, but doesn't define it.

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    [–] 25 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ask your average blue collar Republican voter what they hate about socialism and they will perfectly describe capitalism

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    "Well if you hate Hitler's genocide, we shouldn't all have to collectively do something about it. Buy your own gun, get yourself to Germany, and start fighting Nazis yourself!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Well that is just it, the wealthy of the US were totally on board with the Nazi. Industrialists like Ford help to bankroll the Nazi Empire by building factories and saying they could keep all the profits. Not to mention IBM developing the number system for the tattoos on Jewish prisoners and helping with the logistics of sending them to the death camps

    Hitler didn't even want to kill the Jews at first, he wanted to exile them and sent envoys to see if other countries would take them. When the wealthy of the US found out they went and lobbied against this and stroked more anti-jewish sentiment in Europe to ensure the final solution would happen. Hell, even Hitler said he based the Holocaust after the Native American genocide the US committed.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Google's my third biggest enemy.

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    [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    Capitalism is LITERALLY forcing other people to give away all of their belongings.

    In capitalism, you just don't have any remaining belongings to give away.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    "build one big insurance company to provide coverage for everyone. And no gaps or deductibles. And they can't discriminate who's allowed to join. And let the government administrate it so a single company can't screw you over unfairly."

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Wait, wait... Jesus Christ literally said that. No, seriously. It was something like, "if you want to follow me, surrender your Earthly possessions" and "A thief cannot rob your ephemeral wealth, unlike stuff in your house." Paraphrased poorly, but that's the gist of it.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    It’s not “ignorance.” They know better. They pretend not to.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Trust me, most people actually not know how socialism or communism work, i tried to ask to many and everyone (except maybe 2 people) do not know what either of them are

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Most people have a vague "the government tells you what to do in every aspect of life" sense of communism, and think socialism is like decaffeinated that.

    If you come at it without using the words, and the audience is labor, you can usually get them on board. "If your boss doesn't even go into the office and makes seven figures off your work, and you make five, how does that feel?"

    Of course, some people are so conservative they're happy to stay in their lower tier of the hierarchy.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    I’m scared for our society, nobody willing to actually educate themselves outside of social media

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I mean the proof is in the pudding.

    We can all see how the conservative "pull yourself up by your boostraps trickle down" ideology is (isn't) working for the majority of our society, including the vast majority of conservatives.

    I'm not some tree hugging ultra-lib. But the bottom line is capitalism simply isn't sustainable. It causes rampant pollution and an ever-widening wealth gap between the haves and have nots. We haven't even been utilizing capitalism that long in the big picture and it's already absolutely catastrophic for our environment. It's just not sustainable. It needs to be HEAVILY regulated if it keeps existing at all. And one thing I know for absolute certain is you get the opposite of regulation when you hire conservatives/regressives.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Here, I'll give up all means of production that I personally own and aren't for personal use.

    Done.

    (Ok I'm not giving up my retirement account until we have an effective pension system because I'm not an idiot, but other than that done)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    That's Buddhism, not socialism.
    But hey, good news! This is America, which means you're free to whichever religious ideology you want, with no chance of persecution whatsoever.

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