As it stands today, unmanned vehicles (entirely operated by AI with no human intervention) still has shortcomings from accidents or collisions. Also, how would society react to AI being the driver? If there’s no steering wheel on an entirely AI operated car: how can you override its protocols when it becomes rogue? There are “self driving” cars, but how many use that as their main mode of transportation than driving a car?

The technology for it exists, but remains rather niche since there’s still more cars driven by people than cars operated by AI. Do YOU want to replace your own car with an AI operated one or rather keep one meant to be used by humans? As of now, it’s rather rare unless you happened to spot one whilst on the road. Most car dealerships only sell “normal” cars intended for humans, even Teslas still require a human driver.

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[–] 1 point 1 hour ago

I want the self-driving car because I would be a really bad driver.
AI enables me to do stuff at a quality level I couldn't reach myself even if training the skill would be fun. And for driving that means I could get more freedom of movement without being able to drive.
AI is also about accessibility.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    I have no car and will not get one. Those things are horrible for the environment and humanity. Driver or not. Cars sucks. Fuck cars.

    EDIT: If I have to choose those around me, I want them driven by humans. A human will learn (some) when you yell at them that they are in a bike lane. I trust humans much more than I trust, say, a Tesla, coming from behind while I'm cycling.

    A car nearly ran onto me recently while I was stationary at a traffic light. I suspect the driver was battling against his "auto-pilot" system as the car kept trying to drive on me in the bike lane, and the driver kept trying to correct it. It seemed like the computer thought the bike path was a car lane. Fuck the cyclists in it.

    Plus, we have proper winters where I live and I'd like to see them self-driving during snowfall and snow storms.

    EDIT2: A car is a multi ton vehicle that can easily kill other people. I want humans to have responsibility over this. A death caused by a car can't be easily dismissed, just because some kid or a deer didn't follow what the programming intended them to do. There should be less individual cars and more buses, trains, trams, driven by responsible people, professionals, that are accountable. The only sort of acceptable automation/self-driving are trains if they have a dedicated right of way.

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    I prefer public transit

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  • [–] 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    less of both; more mass transit

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    driverless train/bus or human piloted?

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  • [–] 5 points 20 hours ago* (1 child)

    Driverless, which mass transit is actually a better fit for our technology anyways, especially at its current level. However, we as a species seem to be very intent on doing the wrong thing at every point possible.

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  • [–] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    I don’t oppose automation of many of the piloting tasks, but I’d say it’s great to have a human there, too.

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    [–] 21 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.

    The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.

    Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.

    Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Mainly, that point is about the software a modern electronic car driven by a human is reliant on can get hacked by a hacker (as in them taking full control virtually but in reality they're controlling someone's vehicle).

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago

    I've never been in anything self-driving, and I'm not sure the tech is fully there. I do expect a future where various vehicles and such are all communicating with each other and able to move more efficiently, but I still think we should reduce the number of single-occupancy boxes on the road.

    I'd rather take public transit as my first choice in any case.

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  • Considering the driverless car doesn't yet exist, I'll go with human operated.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    I hate self driving cars for 2 reasons:

    1, they don't work well. They're out there causing accidents.

    2, who is in command? Who do we jail when it kills someone?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There'd be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    By the time you solve all the issues with self driving cars you'll always end up with some form of train. So I would suggest skipping the extra steps.

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago

    This is the real take. The problem with traffic is that it’s elastic and based on a lack of information. If all vehicles accelerate at the same time and don’t have to slowly increase the distance between the next vehicle due to safety / uncertainty - you get a train.

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    Modern day AI models? Nononononononono

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  • [–] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Less cars, less parking, less roads, less sprawling cities.

    Trains, pls.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    What do you think of e-scooters?

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  • I wasn't asked but I have a very passionate opinion on them. So if you'll allow:

    spoilerThe way they're utilized in Germany fucking sucks. It was advertised as a "last leg of the road" kinda vehicle. And where are they overproporionatly available? In cities.

    Where do you have good infrastructure and public transport? In. Fucking. Cities.

    Meanwhile people who really really need a way to get around in rural areas remain to be dependent largely on cars. There usually are busses driving to villages, but only few a day.

    They use resources such as batteries that I'd rather have used for other e-vehicles. In the beginnig they caused new low pay/exploitative jobs: juicers, i.e. the people who collected the scooters and recharchged them at their home.

    And lastly the users. Thet zip through pedestrian zones at ridiculous speeds, drive on busy streets, park them in the middle of the walkway or throw them into nature.

    I hate them and they have shown very little upsides imo.

    The only thing I can think of was my buddy getting home after we hung out faster at night.

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  • [–] 4 points 21 hours ago

    I have intense driving anxiety and only drive around my area willingly, so self-driving cars (or just more trains) would help me a lot.

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  • Until EVERY vehicle is self-driving then no, I'll drive myself

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

    even Teslas still require a human driver.

    That's because musk is a moron who made Tesla ditch LIDAR for optical sensors.

    Waymo taxis are fully autonomous and are already safer than humans.

    Humans are absolutely horrible at driving. It's a major cause of death. Computers don't get tired, distracted, or intoxicated.

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    There are zero human transportable vehicles driven by AI today. The current breed of driverless cars are based completely on Machine Learning - a deterministic technology as opposed to an LLM which is non-deterministic based on noise and randomness.

    I’m absolutely certain all of the idiot takes will be corrected 🙄

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago (1 child)

    This isn't really accurate - "AI" is a somewhat meaningless term that just means machine learning, basically. Also LLMs are deterministic, but usually use a 'temperature' setting to add randomness. And any self-driving system is probably enough of a chaotic system so that sensor noise is enough to make it non-deterministic.

    That being said, I don't think LLMs belong anywhere near a car.

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  • [–] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    The more skills people acquire and use throughout their lives, the better. I prefer people behind the wheels of cars. Some automated commuter trains already exist, and that's cool, but driving is a skill that should be kept by the masses.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago

    I can appreciate useful skills, like how to make rope or make a meal or change a diaper, but being able to drive is only useful because we have made it necessary. I'd rather people have time to learn skills that have some inherent use than have to waste time learning how to drive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    Whatever can move the most people the safest and the fastest. Would love some great mass transit.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 hours ago

    I don't trust the currently available autonomous cars any more than I trust other drivers so I prefer to drive myself. Even if it was perfecr I would want the ability to take over whenever I wanred to address some scenarios where I don't think autonomous would ever be reliable enough in rural areas. If it was good enoigh I would be fine with it on well marked highways or well maintained urban areas, though I'd rsther use mass transit in those situstions.

    Quite a few other drivers should be replaced with autonomous driving as soon as possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 23 hours ago

    Humans are bad at driving our multiton death machines. We have slow reaction times, we get distracted, other humans don't react logically, a true self driving system would be amazing.

    Sadly none of the players on the market seem to actually do self driving good at all.

    Probably we will crack fusion before we have true self driving.

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  • [–] 2 points 23 hours ago

    Neither. People are dangerous, selfish idiots and robots are created by dangerous, selfish idiots.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago

    We don't have driverless cars here but that doesn't matter. No way would I get in one.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Neither but no driverless cars is the preference.

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