As it stands today, unmanned vehicles (entirely operated by AI with no human intervention) still has shortcomings from accidents or collisions. Also, how would society react to AI being the driver? If there’s no steering wheel on an entirely AI operated car: how can you override its protocols when it becomes rogue? There are “self driving” cars, but how many use that as their main mode of transportation than driving a car?

The technology for it exists, but remains rather niche since there’s still more cars driven by people than cars operated by AI. Do YOU want to replace your own car with an AI operated one or rather keep one meant to be used by humans? As of now, it’s rather rare unless you happened to spot one whilst on the road. Most car dealerships only sell “normal” cars intended for humans, even Teslas still require a human driver.

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[–] 45 points 1 month ago (7 children)

less of both; more mass transit

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    driverless train/bus or human piloted?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Driverless, which mass transit is actually a better fit for our technology anyways, especially at its current level. However, we as a species seem to be very intent on doing the wrong thing at every point possible.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I don’t oppose automation of many of the piloting tasks, but I’d say it’s great to have a human there, too.

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    [–] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.

    The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.

    Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.

    Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.

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    [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Considering the driverless car doesn't yet exist, I'll go with human operated.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There'd be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    By the time you solve all the issues with self driving cars you'll always end up with some form of train. So I would suggest skipping the extra steps.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    This is the real take. The problem with traffic is that it’s elastic and based on a lack of information. If all vehicles accelerate at the same time and don’t have to slowly increase the distance between the next vehicle due to safety / uncertainty - you get a train.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    I prefer public transit

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Until EVERY vehicle is self-driving then no, I'll drive myself

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Less cars, less parking, less roads, less sprawling cities.

    Trains, pls.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    What do you think of e-scooters?

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  • I wasn't asked but I have a very passionate opinion on them. So if you'll allow:

    spoilerThe way they're utilized in Germany fucking sucks. It was advertised as a "last leg of the road" kinda vehicle. And where are they overproporionatly available? In cities.

    Where do you have good infrastructure and public transport? In. Fucking. Cities.

    Meanwhile people who really really need a way to get around in rural areas remain to be dependent largely on cars. There usually are busses driving to villages, but only few a day.

    They use resources such as batteries that I'd rather have used for other e-vehicles. In the beginnig they caused new low pay/exploitative jobs: juicers, i.e. the people who collected the scooters and recharchged them at their home.

    And lastly the users. Thet zip through pedestrian zones at ridiculous speeds, drive on busy streets, park them in the middle of the walkway or throw them into nature.

    I hate them and they have shown very little upsides imo.

    The only thing I can think of was my buddy getting home after we hung out faster at night.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I hate self driving cars for 2 reasons:

    1, they don't work well. They're out there causing accidents.

    2, who is in command? Who do we jail when it kills someone?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Whatever can move the most people the safest and the fastest. Would love some great mass transit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Bruh, I don't even like being a passenger with a human driver. I need to drive myself or I walk.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The more skills people acquire and use throughout their lives, the better. I prefer people behind the wheels of cars. Some automated commuter trains already exist, and that's cool, but driving is a skill that should be kept by the masses.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I can appreciate useful skills, like how to make rope or make a meal or change a diaper, but being able to drive is only useful because we have made it necessary. I'd rather people have time to learn skills that have some inherent use than have to waste time learning how to drive.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Every skill learned is a big plus for each person who learns it. All skills are pricelessly precious.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I have intense driving anxiety and only drive around my area willingly, so self-driving cars (or just more trains) would help me a lot.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    even Teslas still require a human driver.

    That's because musk is a moron who made Tesla ditch LIDAR for optical sensors.

    Waymo taxis are fully autonomous and are already safer than humans.

    Humans are absolutely horrible at driving. It's a major cause of death. Computers don't get tired, distracted, or intoxicated.

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    Modern day AI models? Nononononononono

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I'm a "car guy", I'll give up driving when they put me in the ground. I don't trust an AI to make snap decisions, I don't trust it to prioritize human life over property damage, and most importantly I like to drive.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I like to drive. I like being in control of my car and, although I don't really care about "owning" it, I don't like the level of connectivity "Driverless" cars have. I'd never want one.

    That said, I hate other drivers. Staring at their phones, not signaling, speeding, generally driving like a jackass. If giving up driving meant that no one else was driving either? Maybe. I just might.

    I'd much prefer trains and buses, with reasonable cycling infrastructure nearby (to include lockable bike garages).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Humans are bad at driving our multiton death machines. We have slow reaction times, we get distracted, other humans don't react logically, a true self driving system would be amazing.

    Sadly none of the players on the market seem to actually do self driving good at all.

    Probably we will crack fusion before we have true self driving.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Neither but no driverless cars is the preference.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    A long drive gives me time to think without the distraction I get when I don't have to keep my eyes on the road. I'd just grab my phone in a FSD vehicle and waste my time door scrolling as usual.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I don't trust the currently available autonomous cars any more than I trust other drivers so I prefer to drive myself. Even if it was perfecr I would want the ability to take over whenever I wanred to address some scenarios where I don't think autonomous would ever be reliable enough in rural areas. If it was good enoigh I would be fine with it on well marked highways or well maintained urban areas, though I'd rsther use mass transit in those situstions.

    Quite a few other drivers should be replaced with autonomous driving as soon as possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Neither. People are dangerous, selfish idiots and robots are created by dangerous, selfish idiots.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    There are zero human transportable vehicles driven by AI today. The current breed of driverless cars are based completely on Machine Learning - a deterministic technology as opposed to an LLM which is non-deterministic based on noise and randomness.

    I’m absolutely certain all of the idiot takes will be corrected 🙄

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    [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I’ve been driving for a few decades now and I’ve seen plenty of edge cases during that time where driverless cars likely wouldn’t do very well. A few recent examples:

    • A car on fire in the middle of an intersection. Cars drove around it on the red light to make way for approaching fire trucks.
    • I stopped at a red light at a construction zone and was watching for the light to turn green, and didn’t see a police officer standing next to the construction crew trying to wave me through. I finally noticed him when he yelled at me.
    • There’s a traffic light near me where two roads intersect at about a 30 degree angle. You regularly see both the red & green signals for both roads when stopped. I’ve seen Teslas that misread red signals as green be cause of this.
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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    I want the self-driving car because I would be a really bad driver.
    AI enables me to do stuff at a quality level I couldn't reach myself even if training the skill would be fun. And for driving that means I could get more freedom of movement without being able to drive.
    AI is also about accessibility.

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    [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    We don't have driverless cars here but that doesn't matter. No way would I get in one.

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