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Trump laying groundwork to impose national emergency by sowing election distrust (www.theguardian.com)
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President’s speech, declassification of documents and heightened claims of noncitizen voting have experts concerned

A series of moves by Donald Trump’s administration to sow doubt in the integrity of US elections have intensified concern among voting experts – and sparked hope among election deniers – that it could declare a national emergency.

The White House and US federal agencies have released a string of documents this summer – including disputed analyses of alleged voting by noncitzens and historical intelligence memos – stoking expectations that the US president could move to exert greater control over November’s US midterm elections.

Trump used a primetime television address in July to claim – again – that US elections were vulnerable to foreign manipulation, and repeat the lie that the 2020 presidential election, which he lost to Joe Biden, was stolen.

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[–] 75 points 1 month ago (7 children)

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I don't think he picked up the concept of psychological projection from any specific person, but rather, he's just like that because he was raised as a spoiled brat who always had everything handed to him and got participation trophies every time he lost.

    Roy Cohn mainly told Trump to never admit defeat, no matter how hard he lost.

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    • [–] 36 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller Stephen Miller Stephen Miller!!! Anytime you see the name Trump in strategic stuff like this, replace it with Stephen Miller. Trump isn't smart enough to understand anything other than "give me money and power"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    PeeWee Himmler

    The notoriety that Natalie Harp is getting, should be focused on PeeWee Himmler everyday. He's an absolute monster of the highest order, and he needs to be run out of government, and our society. He is among the Top 3 on The List.

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    • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    If we pull out of this fascist nosedive, one reason will be the prescience of the writers of the Constitution to put the administration of elections in the hands of the States, subject to regulation by Congress. The President simply cant do that much on his own. He can bloviate all he wants on this topic, but absent any new action from Congress states are free to ignore him.

    This sole clause does a lot of work in preventing the Presidency from becoming a full-on dictatorship. But only if the States don't comply with the President.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I live in the South. Do not think for one fucking minute that the red states will not comply with Mango Mussolini. We are heading to a civil war. Hell we have been in a cold civil war since Reconstruction. It really got ramped up after Nixon. I am at a point where I am buying guns, ammo, and dry goods because I fear what is coming. Some of the people you think are your friends will betray you. We are headed for dark times and I really don't know what to do.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    Sure, stock up to protect your compound if you want, but I don't think we are heading for a full-scale conflict on US soil. While war is generally good for business, that's only when the fighting and dying are done Over There. Both sides would agree that war here is bad for business.

    I can see us going through a National Divorce at some point. Here's the script I would write: if the National Christians (Let's call them Nat-C's for short, it is fitting) want to hold a Constitutional Convention to remake government, why not let them? We'll simply hold a parallel one for the sane states to make our own Government, with less Fascism. The two sets of delegates will have to get together at some point, though, to work out how the Federal Govenrment's Assets and Liabilities are divided among the States.

    Once all the delegates finish, we will have two competing Constitutions, and each State should be required to run a referendum to decide which they join. If things work out the way we expect, the Nat-C's have all the Red states, we get all the sane states, and we are all better off.

    But, the large Red states like Florida and Texas still have their own sizeable urban populations. If presented an "A/B" choice of this magnitude, they may come out and vote. If the new Nat-C country just has all the backwater states, it will go bankrupt faster than a Trump Casino. At that point, you will need the guns and ammo that the Nat-C's let you keep, to fend off your God-fearing neighbors.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    This would be the fair and rational thing to do. Except those in power know most blue states are where the tax base is. So they would never do this. Since red states are welfare states.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    The two sets of delegates will have to get together at some point, though, to work out how the Federal Govenrment’s Assets and Liabilities are divided among the States.

    Do not be fooled into thinking what happened in Iraq in 1979 won't be attempted in the US. The Trump admin has already accused the left and anti-fascists as terrorist. All that's left is to lie and claim there are democrats and republicans in their ranks who are "anti-american" and people will be willing to celebrate a third term in order to not get executed. We are living in dangerous times.

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    • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Murder, scammer ,rapist,destroyer of murica

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Honestly, if his actions lead to the dissolution of America, then he will be a great man of history, if accidentally.

    Edit: couple of butthurt Americans don't realize their country is the reason we're all going to die of climate change or war, lol.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    No what people are getting pissy about is calling Trump great in any aspect. You could just called the ultimate outcome beneficial and folks wouldn't be pissed. Hell I do it all the time, just don't give the pissbag any credit. Fuckers deserving of damnatio memoriae and only damnatio memoriae.

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    • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Everything he does and says is designed to deceive and exploit.

    For 80 years….

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    [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    America is lost.

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    He will do it

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm wondering what exactly is going to happen

    Will they just quietly rig the elections and Republicans win Wall to wall?

    Will it be louder? Will there be ICE agents at polling stations across the country detaining non-white citizens and denying them the vote?

    Will they strike after the election? Will there be a repeat of January 6th to prevent democrats being certified?

    Will Trump announce the results are in question and delay certification indefinitely?

    Will it be a bit of all of the above?

    Will people finally take the situation seriously and realize the Untied States is a dictatorship and that isn't going away?

    Will I have the most pleasant shock of my life and see none of the above happen and Trump finally lose power?

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    • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    "...Again"

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    [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Gosh...!

    You mean like he's done EVERY OTHER FUCKING ELECTION SINCE HE STOLE THE FIRST ONE?

    Wow. What a surprise.

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    [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I don't know what is coming, but I do know that it is vital we be ready to take any action necessary.

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