I still use gmail and drive for work but otherwise I'm never logged into anything google at home. Today when I tried to expand on a restaurant's hours it wouldn't let me see them without logging in, although it still worked in incognito. This restaurant screenshot is just a random other example I tried, but for the one I was actually checking google had the correct hours while the official website hasn't been updated in awhile and had the old ones (website said they're still open for dinner but they've only been doing lunch for a year or so now)

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[–] 116 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sure, go ahead irritating me when trying to use your service. Pushing me to log-in is THE way to drive me to other services. They have nothing to offer that's worth/can justify logging in. nothing.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    They probably don't care if you use a different service if you don't log in to use theirs. If you don't log in they can't easily monetize you by tracking your data and building a portfolio. Otherwise you use their resources at a cost and they don't make money.

    So threatening to leave for other services isn't exactly a threat.

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    [–] 57 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You should see what they did with reCaptcha. Today for the first time I got the popup telling me to scan a QR code with my phone in order to continue. Well, fuck that.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 week ago (16 children)

    I work in 911 dispatch, we're not really supposed to log into our personal accounts on the work computers, there have been a couple incidents (not specifically in the 911 center but other parts of our county government) where people have gotten viruses and such from opening links in their personal emails on county computers.

    A lot of us in dispatch make pretty heavy use of Google maps. When a caller doesn't know where they are and we're not getting a good location from their cellphone, we can sometimes see a lot of details on Google maps that we can't see on the maps on our dispatch software.

    There have been a couple times a caller has described a house to me and a general area that it was in but not the exact address, but I was able to get that address from looking around on satellite view and street view.

    Sometimes we can see businesses and other places on it that aren't in our system or come up as something slightly different, like maybe everyone calls a school "the Smith School," but the actual name of it, and how it's listed in our system is the "John Q Smith Preparatory Academy" so if I search in our system for "Smith School" I won't find it, but if I look on Google maps I might see that pop up.

    There's cases where like if the call is on the border between 2 towns and I need know which department to dispatch, I can look on maps for little landmarks that probably wouldn't be listed in any map software so that I can ask something like "are you on the same side of the road as the house with a big statue on the front lawn, or are you across the street from that house?"

    Point is, it's a very valuable tool for my job in situations that can actually be life-and-death sometimes, and since I can't log in to it at work, I worry about getting shut out from features I use or even out of the service entirely.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago* (9 children)

    There's OpenStreetMap. I'm not saying that it's as suitable as Google Maps for you, but it's a possible option.

    https://www.openstreetmap.org/

    The're not a commercial service, and the database backing it is freely distributable, so it won't get cut off.

    It doesn't have Google Street View, though, and attempts at reimplementing such a thing have been pretty weak, so if you need that functionality, won't help.

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    [–] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Everyone has their breaking points. The enshittification will continue until morale improves (by leaving Google).

    The only Google properties I still use are YouTube and Scholar (occasionally).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I still use gmail and youtube. Trying to slowly get off gmail. It's been difficult as I don't have the time to sit down and look through what I need to transfer over. I've already got a NorthMail address, so at least that's a step.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I have gmail forwarding my email to my new account outside of Google. I have a "Gmail" folder on my non-Google account where all these forwarded emails get dropped.

    I have been updating my email address on these forwarded emails for over a year. I've had this gmail address since gmail started so it's taking some time. It is a process but I am winning.

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    [–] [S] 22 points 1 week ago* (11 children)

    I really just need to get off google entirely but I'm also very unmotivated/lazy/ADHD, and the common alternative FOSS maps just don't provide the same level of detail, especially in non-US or English speaking countries.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Depends on where you live, in the EU, openstreetmap.org is way more accurate than Google.

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    [–] 11 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    They will make everything mandatory log in for 100% named tracking soon, unless regulations call for otherwise.

    These tech companies are the ones demanding ID laws to use the internet on computers. Microsoft OS already serves unique identifiers that can track down computers, and they want to close the loop.

    They already have an overwhelming amount of information about us anyway, but the more perfect the dataset the more power, control and advertising revenue it affords.

    These billionaire owned companies all want to enslave us all with absolute control. Call me paranoid or dismiss what I’m saying if you would like, but unless we can fix our politics in all of our respective areas to free them from the yoke of big money it will only get worse.

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    [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    This trend is gaining traction. It stated with twitter, then other platforms followed, Reddit does it now too.

    You can't monetize unlogged in traffic I guess.

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    [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (5 children)

    I'm jumping ship for comaps, it's FOSS, no data collection, uses Wikipedia for location descriptions, has an offline mode, and doesn't do weird shit like divert you from a highway to drive on gravel roads to circumvent a perfectly fine 5 mile stretch of highway

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    Soon; "Or click here and we will stop bugging you for this and use you ip, mouse movement behaviors, scroll lag time and recent cookie history to identify you without having to even log in!"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Google did that to me yesterday when I tried to check reviews for a place. I did not check the Google reviews. Sucks my nuts google

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    I use google maps in the browser on my phone without an account logged in. Every single time I open it, it gives me a pop up message begging me to use their app with two buttons at the bottom that are blatantly dark patterned and misleading to get you to accidentally click on their app store link.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Which is why I'm building my own self hosted map application

    Fuck Google with an umbrella

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    OpenStreetMap ftw

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    It's sad to see how time and time again companies build up a big user base by being the best service out there, and then just assume that they'll be the market leaders forever and ever no matter how much they enshittify.

    The amount of vendor lock-in with something like Google Maps is very close to zero.

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