Anti-genAI art platform Cara has been scraped a second time and the AI bros are taking sheer perverse joy in the distress it's causing the artists who contribute to the platform

Twitter thread by founder Jingna Zhang

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[–] 164 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Leave the autism out of this, AI Bros are narcissists, whether they have autism or not isn't really relevant.

-An Autist that can't draw, write or code worth shit, but still hates genAI with a passion.

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  • [–] 63 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Yeah. "Autistic" does not and should not imply "ethically stunted". I am autistic. Of course I am driven to solve problems. The drive to solve any particular problem, however, is greatly reduced when a large group of people whom I consider peers band together and state as loudly as they possibly can that they do not want it to be solved. Anyone who endeavors to solve such a problem anyway should re-evaluate their life choices and consider whether their clearly impressive talents could be put to better use.

    Sincerely, an autistic programmer who can't draw for shit but still hates genAI with a passion.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Do Autistic People Have a Stronger Sense of Morality?

    In some respects, yes. A number of autistic adults describe an almost visceral discomfort with dishonesty, favoritism, or bent rules, the kind of thing many neurotypical people shrug off as “just how things work.” That’s not a quirk. It shows up repeatedly in research on moral rigidity and rule adherence in autism.

    The pattern seems to trace back to how autistic cognition handles consistency. Where a neurotypical brain might flex a rule depending on who’s involved or what’s socially convenient, an autistic brain is more likely to apply the same standard everywhere, to everyone, every time. This is explored in depth in relation to moral rigidity and its connection to a strong sense of right and wrong often seen in autism.

    https://neurolaunch.com/autism-and-morality/

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Man I wish I saw this clear, easy to understand comment like two months ago when I was trying to exlain something in here. Failed, downvoted, aye.

    Good summary.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Yeah, it immediately came to my attention.... because one of the most devastating career effects of autism is not being to able to go-along-to-get-along, which, at least for me, is largely an ethical thing. It's dishonest for me to pretend to care about you just because you are my co-worker or my boss.

    I mean, I'm polite and courteous and am there for people when I feel there is a need, but the constant ball-fondling of the NTs has me at great social disadvantage.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah. "Autistic" does not and should not imply "ethically stunted".

    Greta Thunberg is autistic. The person who said "The IDF bombed our flotilla, so we have to try again," and she said it in the most casual tone, like she was talking about running to the store for a loaf of bread.

    Autism is a super-power, but like all super-powers, it all depends upon how you choose to use it.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I can code, but I'm still not gonna use that to compensate my inadequacy at things other people can do well. I'd rather contact an artist for a commission than have the Plagiarism Machine produce it.

    (I'd also rather not contact strangers with personal requests, because I'm worried I'd come across as overly obsessive with details to the point of cramping their style and I don't want to make strangers uncomfortable, so the odds lf me ever commissioning art are about the odds of me making friends with someone who happens to produce art in a style I like, but that's beside the point. "No art" is still better than "stolen art soup".)

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I mean, if you are worried about that, just let them know upfront you are autistic and get hung up on weird details - they will either be understanding, or turn down your request.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    That is a perfectly reasonable way to deal with this issue that I never thought of.

    Now I can shift my anxiety to how people will react if I tell them I'm autistic, but frankly, looking at the communities I tend to gravitate towards, odds are they're more likely to ask about my hyperfocus than take issue.

    Thanks for breaking me out of the trap of perspective!

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  • [–] 79 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is a bad person even outside of the Ai context.

    "I get a dopamine hit from emotionally disturbing other people"

    this is a bad person.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 weeks ago

    I like it when they don't consent.

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  • [–] 48 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Dawg that isn't autism, you're just an asshole.

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    [–] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah that "speedrunning" shit is not autism. That's just being an asshole. An autistic person would probably know the difference, which I guess is ironic.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago

    People thinking autistic lack empathy because they don't engage in the two faced bullshit social games everyone else does, when actually they have a better sense of morality and ethics and social boundaries and empathy than any of these fuckers ever will.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Ai bros, are factually the dumbest people to ever live

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  • [–] 29 points 3 weeks ago

    Fuckin hell. I'm Autistic, but I'm not like that. Can't claim Autism for being a gobshite.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Just to weigh in here- as an autistic person myself one of the things I love about computers is how predictable and repeatable they are. Yes, I know that bit flipping and memory errors exist, but compared to human brains computers are consistent and beautiful. I largely try to model my own mind on how computers work.

    I find AI to be absolutely disgusting for how it violates this. All of the other issues are important but solvable (the economic and social impact, the environmental impact, copyright issues, safety guardrails, etc). Like, I dont expect any of then to be fully solved but I could imagine a world where they are mostly solved. They are technical and legal challenges. Renewable energy infrastructure, universal basic income, reverting copyright law to pre-Disney levels, and a bit of responsible stewardship could do wonders (though I dont expect any of that to actually happen). The core concept of making computers less certain is not solvable, but a fundamental aspect of the design that I find abhorrent.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago

    Finally someone who says it

    I never got the point of asking an unreliable non deterministic model to write code for you when programming languages are literally right there, they almost always do exactly what you write

    And there's plenty of deterministic ways to do code assistance too

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    [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    These clankers and AI Glazers tend to have dark personality traits. I am not surprised that they are so callous and cruel towards people just to glaze their latest golden calf (which will fail, as it is so very hated). How very heartless of them, unsurprisingly they have a paid blue check mark on a fascist site.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Us true autistics don't get a thrill from pissing people off or stealing because autists have a strong moral compass.

    I'm now pissed about the theft of this art AND this assholes suggestion that autists are to blame.

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    [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    This makes me wonder why we haven't yet seen an AI bro beaten into a bloody pulp for being an AI bro. The artist community sure has a lot of patience.

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    [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago

    Didn't know autist=psychopath /s

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago

    The same autist will then frothing from their mouth when someone steal their approach and then limelight.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago

    It is not the tism but I bet you don't stop when they say no

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    thst must be a 4chan transplant

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I hope the fury of a million meth-fueled fire ants set up a colony in this person's urethra.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Somebody is bitter my goodness

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Do these people really think themselves autistic because they know enough English to ask Claude to put together a scraper?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago*

    For people that like messing with technology, couldn't writing an AI poisoner software also hit the same dopamine spot?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Won't anyone DDOS these motherfuckers?

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